SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted March 7, 2016 SRC Supporter Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Many have heard of the Ocean Free Hydra Depurator - device that generates Hydroxyl (OH) radicals to purify water. Many are unclear how the technology works despite reading the FAQ & more importantly how it benefits our reef tanks. I’m not affiliated to Qian Hu in any way but would like to share my findings with the reefing community having used this product since Oct 15. Background reading on chemistry & technology behind the product. http://www.yihufish.com/products/product-information/of-hydra-powered-by-hydro-pure-technology/frequently-asked-questions-faq Key summary: Increases ORP (oxidation reduction potential) marginally. This is a good thing Does not reduce nitrates if already present. Other nutrient export method required (eg. bio pellet/skimmer) With prolonged use, the system nitrate level reduces slightly Really does remove toxic ammonia. Great for emergency needs & quarantine tanks (without medication). Able to add livestock within a day.Details: There were several models of the Hydra available catering from nano tanks to medium sized units with built in pumps. I got the largest model Hydra Stream 3 which needed an external pump to supply water through it. These cartridges contain proprietary media (similar to carbon) needs to be inserted 1 by one. Not inserted all at one go like what I tried to do. A very tight fit. I used the angle adapter. Remember to insert the black o-ring as mentioned in the instructions. The white plumbers tape is not necessary. O ring is sufficient. It’s recommended to mount it vertically so that the entire chamber is filled with water. Power consumption of the Hydra stream 3 unit is about 2Watts. Usage: I have an ORP sensor hooked up to the APEX Neptune. For this chart & review, it turned off the Hydra for 1 week. More about ORP : http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-12/rhf/feature/ ORP runs around 250mv to 350mv in the sea. For my tank, ORP runs in the 280+mv range with the Hydra off. It never crosses the 300 mark for the past months. With the Hydra switched on, it increases marginally to the 317+ range within a couple of hours. It will continue upwards towards the 330 range. This shows that the Hydra is indeed increasing the oxidizing potential. Most associate ORP measurement with Ozone. Generally, the higher the ORP number, the cleaner the water. The benefits of ozone are well documented – increases oxidizing potential, converts ammonia to nitrate among other ways of purifying the water. However, ozone needs to be handled carefully as the potential health effects associated is dangerous for an inexperienced reefer. Details here - http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-03/rhf/index.php I got the Hydra because it improves oxidation potential without the risk of Ozone. Over prolonged use, I observe an improvement in water quality & clarity. Googling further, publications that state that hydroxyl radicals react with organic waste until complete mineralization occurs. These are skimmed out easily resulting in improved water clarity. It’s documented that higher oxidation levels can lead to lower nitrates, probably via the above mentioned mechanism. (Refer to the earlier link under the section “Oxidation of Organics by Ozone: Skimming and Nutrients”). While they Hydra does not reduce nitrates directly, at a reef system level, lower nitrates is possible. In my case, I’ve seen nitrates coming down from 5ppm to the 2ppm range (pic taken before water change). Note there are also other factors such as feeding habits & reactor tuning as well. IMO, the effect of the Hydra does not have the punch of an Ozone generator, but in a small way, it does have a small positive impact to water quality. Does it reduce nitrates? I ran a simple experiment to see if nitrates can be reduced. Here is the set up : 40L Zoanthid frag tank without any fishes. Simple biological filtration (biohome & filter wool). Water circulates via an Eheim compact 600 pump. Auto water top up with RODI water. Lights come on 6 hours a day. No fishes => no food was added during the week => no new ammonia source added. Initial nitrate level is 50ppm (25 Oct 2015). Hydra switched on 24hrs a day for a week. Nitrate levels were taken every 2 days. On the 6th day, nitrate levels remained at 50ppm (1st Nov) Results show it does not convert/reduce existing nitrates already in the system. Other observations & notes : · The claims about converting toxic ammonia to less toxic nitrate is true. I’ve put fishes in an uncycled tank with the Hydra without issues. This equipment is just perfect for quarantine tanks or emergency purposes · As the conductive media is made of carbon, it’s not advisable to use it in a hospital or medicated tank. This was also mentioned in the instructions sheet. · Proper mechanical filtration (skimmer) is still required. This continues to help prevent excessive organics be converted to nitrates in the first place. They Hydra does not replace a skimmer. · Nutrient/nitrate export is still required (eg. Water change, biopellet + skimmer) · Did not observe a reduction in skimmate. Still able to get a full cup in 3-5 days. To round it about the Hydra Stream: Increases ORP (oxidation reduction potential) marginally. Improves overall water quality Does not reduce nitrates if already present. Other nutrient export method required (eg biopellet/skimmer) With prolonged use, the system nitrate level reduces slightly Great for quarantine tanks & emergency Edited March 7, 2016 by SubzeroLT 2 Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member inwear Posted March 7, 2016 SRC Member Share Posted March 7, 2016 Thanks for sharing the key takeaways. I enjoy the read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Sherilyn91 Posted March 7, 2016 SRC Member Share Posted March 7, 2016 Nice information! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leejwa Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 i heard that the effect is better using oversized unit of the Hydra and increasing the water flowing through it , anyone got any experience with this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted March 8, 2016 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2016 I understand that the reactions are quite instantaneous inside the chamber & there isn't a need for long contact time (unlike a UV filter). Hence a relatively high flow rate is OK. The stream 3 is rated for 2500L volumes and i'm using it for a 200L tank. That's way over specified & works well. Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Law88 Posted March 8, 2016 SRC Member Share Posted March 8, 2016 Nice and detail article ! Thanks for the great info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMTROOPER Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Thanks for sharing your findings. I was very curious about how it actually works. Well Done ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Sim Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Thank you for sharing ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Zest2night Posted July 16, 2016 SRC Member Share Posted July 16, 2016 Nice information! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hey im interested in adopting ur maroon clown but i cant send a message to u via the messaging system in this app! Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member arkal339 Posted August 31, 2019 SRC Member Share Posted August 31, 2019 Excellent information... thanks a lotSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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