sheltiejazz Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi bros, I have read quite a few experiences of bros here about the seriousness of power failure. Quite a few had shared the experience of total fatality of livestocks due to power failure. For me, UPS is not a feasible solution. In this case, are there other things that I could do to prevent fatality of livestock during power failure? For example, does keeping the tank lightly stocked help? Thanks. Kwee Heng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 Some discussion on UPS and other alternatives can be found here: http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?...1421&hl=ups Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hi bros, I have read quite a few experiences of bros here about the seriousness of power failure. Quite a few had shared the experience of total fatality of livestocks due to power failure. For me, UPS is not a feasible solution. In this case, are there other things that I could do to prevent fatality of livestock during power failure? For example, does keeping the tank lightly stocked help? Thanks. Kwee Heng Hi Kwee Heng, Yes, keeping your tank lightly stocks does help because the oxygen demand of the tank will be low. Another cheap alternative is battery operated air pump, you can get those in most LFS nowadays. HTH Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 Lightly stocked tank will mean a smaller burn to the pocket but I think it will help in short-term (less than 6 hours) outage situations. The major fatal factor I believe will be Temperature. Once the temperature goes up, LPS and SPS will start to deteriorate and die. Lighting. Should be off when chilling is not functional to reduce heat generation. Livestock will be fine for a few days without lighting. Filter/skimmer. Waste accumulation will be slower in a Lightly stocked tank. But Siphoning and water changes can help in situations where normal filtration is not available. Dissolved Oxygen. A battery-operated air pump will help with gas exchange during outage. Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zephyros Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 1) Have many bottles of "iced" water in fridge ready 2) standby battery power pumps power failure is not the thing that kills, it is not knowing that there is a power failure that kills how to be alerted when there is a power failure? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 power failure is not the thing that kills, it is not knowing that there is a power failure that killshow to be alerted when there is a power failure? +1 Even with high tech controller with whatever email or sms module to alert you, no power=no alert... Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zorden Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 +1 Even with high tech controller with whatever email or sms module to alert you, no power=no alert... very true. unless the high tech controller can be made to send status updates to the reefers like every 2 hrs from 9 - 7pm via sms thus f there is a power failure. the user will be alert enuff to notice the lapse in sms thus rush home... Quote I am just an average FR (fish reefing) writer. If you like my FRs, please upz my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 just for laughs. Train your fishes to call your mobile... Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherman Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 +1 Even with high tech controller with whatever email or sms module to alert you, no power=no alert... You mean those controller do not have back up battery to continue working for the next few hours? Quote 6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08) 4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09) 5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 5*2.5*2(LED only) Eheim return 1 * pump 1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil 2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40, 1X6085 Tunze wm, 1 CURVE 7 Skimmer 1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3 Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium 1 Full spectrum E27 led light 1 CR control by bubble count Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016 Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 You mean those controller do not have back up battery to continue working for the next few hours? Don't think so... Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zorden Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 Don't think so... they don have back up battery. i google and cant find a controller that alert user when there is a power failure. However i guess u can get a ups. t Quote I am just an average FR (fish reefing) writer. If you like my FRs, please upz my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gp2700 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm not too sure about the SMS on power failure function but I think I can check with someone about this tomorrow. Question is due to the hardware cost and customization, how much are you willing to pay for it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zorden Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 I'm not too sure about the SMS on power failure function but I think I can check with someone about this tomorrow. Question is due to the hardware cost and customization, how much are you willing to pay for it ? just get your machine to sms u every 2 hrs. so if u find the lapse u will know uncle murphy playing with your fishes. Quote I am just an average FR (fish reefing) writer. If you like my FRs, please upz my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherman Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 All controller component are DC type so should be able to be support by battery for short period of time. Quote 6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08) 4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09) 5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 5*2.5*2(LED only) Eheim return 1 * pump 1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil 2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40, 1X6085 Tunze wm, 1 CURVE 7 Skimmer 1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3 Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium 1 Full spectrum E27 led light 1 CR control by bubble count Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016 Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zephyros Posted November 24, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 24, 2009 if you subscribe to those security system, one of the function is that they will call you when their machine got power off, indirectly stating that there is a power failure/trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 25, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 25, 2009 For daily monitoring when away from work, I think it's ok. You can rush back to rectify the problem. If away for holiday, no matter what million dollar backup system you have also not enough. Need someone knowledgeable standby to fix the problem. Otherwise kena sms ruin not only your tank but your holiday. Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherman Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 If you go on holiday, you will normally get someone to look after your tank if its a long holiday. So if you recieve sms alert from your tank you can call them to help and check the problem Quote 6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08) 4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09) 5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 5*2.5*2(LED only) Eheim return 1 * pump 1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil 2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40, 1X6085 Tunze wm, 1 CURVE 7 Skimmer 1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3 Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium 1 Full spectrum E27 led light 1 CR control by bubble count Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016 Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member vt_snowman87 Posted November 25, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted November 25, 2009 usually before i go on short holiday, i do a 'mock' power failure.. and see what are the issues to take note of.. ensure that water level in sump is optimum (no overflow) etc.. but the problem is usually with the lightings and the temp. of the water since chiller doesn't kick in.. Quote (Decommissioned) http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/92504-full-sps-shallow/?page=9 (Decommissioned) http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/69803-vincs-2ft-cube-tank/?page=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheltiejazz Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 Thanks all for the replies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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