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i hope to get a reasonably priced second-hand 2000l/h pump, any reasonable reliable brand will do. hope you have one to offer. cash, test and carry please, any location in sg ... sms me at +65 8211 6282. thanks in advance ...

thank you. 2 kind reefers has given me a great great offer ... thank you once again ... have fun ...

i hope to get a reasonably priced second-hand chiller, any reasonable reliable brand will do (with or w/o pump). hope you have one to offer. cash, test and carry please, any location in sg ... pm me will be good, else sms me at +65 8211 6282. thanks in advance ...

some guys wish to get the fishes ... i am not prepared to sell them yet ... some have already been reserved or collected (trapped) ... by close guys ... i didnt know seasoned fishes are so happening ...

some guys asked for conditions. they are all in working condition. otherwise, i wouldnt sell them. feel free to test drive. i am staying in the dead centre ... somewhere near bukit batok ...

(1) LR at S$3 per kg (2) Resun CL650 chiller at S$280 (1 year old) (3) beckett 32 in with small cupboard, waste collector, pipes, pump, super good pump 9500lph - bought whole set - $780 (6-8 mths), but you can offer in pcs ... (4) SEIO M1100 - 4400lph - 1 year - bought $98 selling $60 each (2 pcs) (5) pinpoint pH monitor - bought $199 (1 year) - $120 (6) metal halide 5ft - bought $480 (6 mths) - $300 no bargaining please, i will give away stuff if i know you are a good reefer ... (sorry no dc, so no pic) once i clear these, i will proceed to sell my fishes ... mostly $1 fish as long i know you are a fish lover, they have been with me long time ... so just looking for a good home for them. thx for reading ... my new place smaller than current ... so sms me at 91283214 (lizard)

dear patrick: this is what a woman said. not what we said. a fancy car speeds up a g-close. please read dravan's comment. i know it sounded rather lame. if you based it on slow and steady, then you g-close long long time once, lor. in the west, you can g-close without them meeting you twice. but, not in sg. seldom you g-close within one meeting, unless it is friend's friend. then, different. a fancy car is like an extension of the fun-loving you. you are the AM (alpha male), not an AFC. an AM is a strong specimen of the male species, all females will want to be in the AM's inner circle. just an off-topic: in the animal kingdom, only the AM got to do all the females. the rest are AFCs who DON'T get to do. some AFCs tried to rationalise that they are socially correct. but, nevertheless, an AFC. you don't get the do. the reason is the females will only go for the AM to carry his "strong" genes for the next geny. so if you show a wimpy persona, you will not get the do. giving flowers, buying drinks are wimpy. AMs get them to bring him drinks. that's the difference. then, how to do it. well ... the book said you must be able to handle rejections, move on when you get a rejection. analyse your own mistake and learn and try again. don't be a one-itis. by looking at your car, they can already fantasize the size of your hmmmm ... others are smaller by comparison as AMs are also successful specimen in other areas (the female must conclude that way unfortunately, otherwise she will get you to eat out of her hands, so do be careful, i was once like that, so no prize for guessing them right for me). some PUAs use magic tricks, palm-reading or something you don't get to see during normal times. i am also doing some palm-readin course at the moment. also, learnin how to sms e young kid way. hard work. we are also renting an apartment for secure feelings too. nowadays, renting a condo is rather cheap. once they enjoy the treat, you are in. but, remember they will ask you to buy them drinks, NEVER do it. cannot be a wimp anymore. you must stand out. look ... who's talking ... we share our experience, lor. having a flashy car and apartment like what dravan said is not too necessary. this i agreed. but, why do i still do it - well - for faster transactions i guess. yesterday, i number-closed an UG. so, no big deal, although she was young. i am just rAFC for now. the best part was everytime i told her something, she blushes ... shiok. one of the patterns i am thinking of is the roller-coaster pattern - (1) it is fun and exciting, (2) you want to do it again and (3) you are secure. condo is the secure part (3) while the car is the fun extension of me (1). repeat part (3) haven't figure it out. if you do pu at shopping centres, no way you can g-close, at most number-close, not even kiss-close. i will tell you the night spot experience, when i get to it. i haven't dare to try the 7-8s worst 9-10s. still a chicken AFC. combined with uni or poly qualifications, can die, that challenge. thx dravan for the excellent opinion ... we all learn ... nice ... (interestingly, recently i applied the same principles into my business by trying to become the AM in the businesses, it worked for me splendidly. so please don't look down on this technology the west has developed.) lizard

patrick: bon jour, my friend ... "Isn't this true? "boy no bad, gals no like"? But I wonder why????" give you some sammyboy inputs: this is from a gal (old one unfortunately, her view is our beacon no matter how untrue and misplaced it was): From: Mom_Teresa 14-Oct 13:32 To: Carls09 4 of 91 Listen to me, Boyboy. If a girl likes you, she likes you. It's gonna very difficult for her to dislike you. You don't even have to court her. If she doesn't like you but nevertheless treats you like a prospective b/f, it's because she is having difficulties with finding the one she likes. You court a girl only when opportunties don't allow you to mix around with her. For eg, she sells bread at Delifrance, and in order to get to know her you have no choice but to patronise her. Once you get to know each other, she immediately decides if she likes you or not. You don't have to court her. From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 07:09 To: Itto_Ogami 16 of 91 <...then she start the mind games to see how deep is your love?> There are reasons why some girls play mind games. If a guy embarks on a 'cards on the table' strategy, the charm of mystery (sometimes known as the lure of curiosity) is lost. You lose your cham, you lose your attractiveness, and it opens invitation for the girl to play the game of control. The game of control appeals to the girl's ego; that is to say, mind games are never there to test the veracity of your love. If the girl likes you, she will fear losing you. A girl who plays mind games with you is not attracted enough to you. A girl is drawn to a man's confidence. Always remember that. And it's not confidence built on flashy cars and expensive dinners. It's being self-assured, and that alone exudes an aura of masculine charm. Only when you are lacking in confidence that you need flashy cars and expensive dinners to bolster your confidence. Good girls are not drawn to flashy cars and expensive dinners. The sluts will find them attractive, though. From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 09:34 To: Itto_Ogami 22 of 91 <<<.. Good girls are not drawn to flashy cars and expensive dinners. The sluts will find them attractive, though....> that means over 90% of SG women are sluts.>> I think I need to make myself clear. Mxxlims eat Hallal food. But that does not translate to everybody who eats Hallal food is a Mxxlim. From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 09:40 To: Carls09 23 of 91 < But in the end his sincerity won her heart. And this fairy tale story must have brought some smiles to those nice guys out there.> That's because the movie lasts only 2 hours. In real life, is your love story and marriage going to last just 2 hours ? From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 10:21 To: Carls09 25 of 91 You missed my point. It's a movie. In real life, the test of your love begins with the marriage. And if you are in Singapore, you will know that 20% of the marriages are likely to end up in divorce. If TCS or Raintree commissions me to write to script that can sell well, I will definitely not write about the high incidence of divorces in Singapore, and the realities leading to such divorces. Who is gonna be my audience ? Girls for sure. I will appeal to the fantasy of most girls. For them, nothing beats being in control of the relationship. I will make the girls feel like they are little princesses. To do so, I will have to make the male lead a wimp BUT camouflaged with plenty of romance. The impressionable young guys after watching the movie will think it great to be romantic. Guys with aspirations no greater than winning the heart of a girl is a wimp. In real life, these guys are not going to attract any girls. Don't talk to me about sincerity blah blah blah. Everyone is sincere to his or her own desires. There is nothing to shout about. From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 11:13 To: jbjjbjjbj 28 of 91 BTW, sincerity only works when the girl is lonely. So it's not sincerity that is at work, but loneliness. From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 13:54 To: Carls09 33 of 91 I'm not going to be drawn into arguments on the merits of the movie, My Sassy Girl. If you think you can emulate the male lead in My Sassy Girl, and if you think he inspires you enough to slave-chase a girl for 3 years, it's really your choice. I'm just trying to give you an insight into how the psychology of women living outside the romantic movie operates. I've been in this forum for quite a while, and it seems that many young Singaporean romeos just don't get it, to the extent that they think it's kinda 'cool' or 'man' to sacrifice their dignity to put the girl on the pedestal. The same people would later cry after being ditched by their little princesses and wallow in self-pity thinking that they've been victims of some great romantic encounters. The truth is a man must learn to love himself first. I really mean a man must learn to protect his dignity among other things. A man who kowtow to a girl is very romantic, but WEAK at the same time. A man who is unable to protect his own dignity is unable to protect anything, and that's the reason why they often get screwed by the girls they thought who were in love with them. A weak man is the worst representative of mankind ! The live under the cloak of romance. From: Mom_Teresa 15-Oct 22:47 To: Carls09 36 of 91 < these very same wimpy guys who got jilted came back stronger after licking their wounds.> I'll be very happy for the future of Singapore if that is the case. I don't have statistics, and I don't think AC Nielsen compiles any statistics on our local romeos. However, if you've been watching some of the threads in this folder, you will see that the same wimpy guys who got jilted they lament most of the time and don't come back stronger. As long as they continue to indulge in their little fantasy of being victims in some great romantic encounters, they continue to be wimps of the highest order. They just don't understand female psychology and naively draw lessons from romantic dramas and movies which only serve to promote little princesses and glorify romantic wimps. If you have the masculine appeal of man, trust me, the girls will flock to you. The attraction that men offer to women is far greater than the attraction that women offer men. The problem is most local young punks lack knowledge and confidence. In their eagerness to get into a relationship, they pander to the wimps and fancy of the girls they are after, and completely forget to cultivate their masculine appeal. In short, the romantic wimps allowed girls to define 'a nice man' and shape their destiny. From: Mom_Teresa 16-Oct 03:05 To: i_am_belle 41 of 91 I don't classify men with masculine appeal as alpha males, because I don't know enough of the meanin gof alpha males. Likewise, I wouldn't go as far to say that a mere romantic act makes a male a wimp. It's the aspirations from the heart of a man that I'm targeting. Very often, a man gets himself trapped in a lost relationship or who suffered lost love has a small heart or little aspirations. A man with a small heart offers his heart easily to a woman, and a man with little aspirations often values romance more than other things in life, including his dignity, his future, his masculine appeal etc. A man with a big heart does not go around offering his heart to girl and gets himself trapped in sorrows arising for lost love. No sane man will dwell in sorrows. It's not sorrows that draws a man to lick wounds. The man actually derives honey from licking the wounds, the honey from the memory of sweet romance. If only he had greater aspirations in life, like every man ought to, he would have overlooked lost love and move on to soar greater heights in life. You court, you slave, you humble, you joy, you cry etc....over a girl, and you think it's justified because love is great. It's not the love you are after; it's the youth of a girl that you are mesmerized. If the same girl takes a magic pill and ages 30 years within days, would you still court, slave, humble, joy and cry over her ? You would probably move to the next SYT. This is exactly what a man should do if the girl rejects you. Move on to the next SYT. The alpha male who turns into a wimp, I really don't know what goes into the definition of a alpha male. I certainly don't see men keeping moustache, spewing vulgarities and smoking cigarettes as evidence of masculine appeal. Likewise, masculine appeal does not mean 'bad boy' image. It's in the heart; it's the aspirations. As for wimps always winning the girl, you have to ask if they have also won the respect of the girl. A girl can marry a man for many reasons. The man would like to believe it's love and respect. The high incidence of divorce proves otherwise From: Mom_Teresa 17-Oct 11:55 To: hose_lover 65 of 91 The playboy approach is better if your objective is just to get into her pants. From: Mom_Teresa 17-Oct 13:45 To: slayer59 unread 68 of 91 The 'sensible statement' was a very recent inspiration. I'm surprised that nobody raised it until you did. I just hope boys who are turning into men know that romance is just a sweetener to make your food of life a little more tasty, but not the food itself that is supposed to nourish you and make you grow. There are many more important things in life than just 'pleasing a girl'. You don't love your child by buying him expensive toys; you are creating a spoilt brat in the child. Likewise, it's the dumbest thing to romance a girl by buying her expensive dinner. You are feeding her ego and making a little princess out of her. If a girl does not know the proper way to be loved, you should teach her like you teach your child that sweets and ice-creams are not proper diet. If Sg girls are bad, it's all because of you, Man. You had the opportunity to be her teacher, but you chose to be her servant. And why did many choose to be servants ? It's because they have not understood what it takes to be a man. Learn to be a man first, and you will know how to handle a girl. You don't become a man by learning how to please a girl. From: Mom_Teresa 17-Oct 22:35 To: lizard44 71 of 91 <thx indeed ... now i am promoted to a playboy ... sadly but true, i feel no more love ... old fool me ... just *expletive* and chuck ... air39 you are my play man ... mom you are my mum ...> I'll clarify one more time in this thread that I'm not advocating the playboy model as "the way" to court a woman. The playboy topic came about because of the need to make a comparison. I'll say again that if your objective in courting a girl is to get into her pants, the playboy model is good. If you adopt the playboy model not because you are a natural playboy but you fear rejection by the girl then you are a coward. Like a wimp disguised as a 'nice guy', a coward disguised as a playboy is just as much pathetic. If you don't invest sincerity into a relationship, you can never appreciate the true value of a relationship and experience the joy a sincere relationship brings. BTW, it's unfair juxtaposition to put me alongside Air39, the attention seeker. From: Mom_Teresa 20-Oct 10:23 To: Serenditpity 78 of 91 <I dont necessarily agree with you that being romantic is at the cost of becoming WEAK> I did clarify in this thread not once but twice that not every attempt to be romantic would turn a man into a wimp. It's what you hope to achieve with being romantic and how you react when your love is not reciprocated that we witness if a man is weak. If you want to come across as "the knight in shining armour", then you must never give up your armour and climb down of your horse. The problem with many useless romeos is instead of riding on the back of the horse with their armour shining, as soon as they are infatuated with a girl they give up both the armour and horse. Instead of being a knight in shining armour, the man becomes a 'waiter in lacy aprons' taking orders from his damsel. By doing so, you destroy your image as knight in shining armour, and you destroy your masculine charm, leaving the damsel with very little to imagine the relationship. If you can't be the object her imagination, your relationship is heading to the rocks. From: Mom_Teresa 21-Oct 23:55 To: lizard44 unread 84 of 91 <a guy having a crush on a gal is no sin. he may pander over and care for her, as he has held her as an important part of his life - wife material. he is NEVER weak, but just merely doting.> You are digressing. Nobody is saying that having a crush on a gal is a sin. Nobody is saying that pander over and care for the girl is a sin. Nobody is denying that the guy who does exactly that - pander over and care - sees the girl as important and wife material. You can even call it sincerity, devoted, romantic, faithful etc. whatever nice terms you can think of to justify the actions that will eventually make you LOSE the girl and break your heart. And you know what ? This is what I have been trying to say all along, and I believe many others have already understood - the GIRL just don't give a damn ! Being unwise is also not a sin. The same can be applied to your beloved baby - doting on the child and pander over and care - until the baby grows up and become a spoilt brat. It's not a sin too. It's not about sin. It's about being wise. And being wise is a choice. With greater reason, being weak is also a choice. From: Mom_Teresa 22-Oct 00:07 To: lizard44 unread 85 of 91 When a man dotes on a woman, pander over and care for the girl, it's not always love at work, especially when the man and woman are still getting to know each other. Why does a woman need to be doted, pandered over and cared for ? Is it because the woman is fragile ? Absolutely not ! It's because the man is so afraid of losing the woman. The man is so afraid because the man values the woman highly in his life. The man values to woman highly because that's precisely his biggest aspiration (or one of his biggest) in life. The man feels insecure from the beginning. So who is fragile ? The man or the woman. Well, when the relationship falls into pieces after all the doting and pandering, we will know if the man or the woman is the fragile party. A fragile heart that can be broken so easily STEMS from a weak constitution in the character. There are books written about tactics that will help you get the girl. You are not forced to adopt the tactics that you deem disrespectful to the girl. But a wise man will seek to understand the rationale as to why girls succumb to such tactics. That's what my post is all about. If a man fails and still thinks that a girl should think the way he thinks, and fall in love the way he wants her to fall in love, then it's not just weakness at work. A greater character flaw is responsible. interesting read? disappointing, uh? do remember, i was also called a wimp .... sad but true ... hence, we must tranform to what they dream ... hahahahahahahaha lizard

hi tineng: hmmm ... you have read the book: The Game ... (excellent, we are in the same lingo then) if we were to do a web-search on PUAs, we will get very good hits. yes, i will not just try night spots, everywhere is our practice sarge ... we are omni-present ... oops ... just kidding. ani hints on how to get uni gals? what are their likes and dislikes? poly gals - their likes and dislikes? thanks ... lizard

mUAr_cHEe: hahahahahaha ... you have sized my budget rather well ... hehehehehehe bm 630 is still way way out of reach ... rx-8 or 9 is also not my type ... lexus 300? hmmm ... i already got 3.3 azera ... bm 6s will be likely my next upgrade if my skirt-chasing hardware needs improving ... 350z it is ... i suspect if i were to get sporty at 2L, i will only catch the lower end of the skirts, below 6s. well ... just my opinion ... with 350z hopefully there's improvement in ranking to 7-8. 9-10s needs ferraris, porsches or lambos, which i can't afford. i will get one of them once my wifey leaves for earth from middle earth. some of my kakis said i better learn to spend, otherwise 1 day i might find half my kingdom takes a walk somewhere else. hahahahahahahaha ... thanks for the prefect touch ... weisoon: "Now hardly go there lah, Zouk, Velvet Underground, Indocinne, etc. Got to set up tank and look after kids....." your statement has caught me by surprise. do you know how much the world misses a fine gentleman like you? you are simply selfish ... man ... oh boy ... you should share with the world. never heard of the phase: "all good boys are married" or "boy no bad, gals no like"? i have left my humble nice guy days ... cos of great self-professed pretty but bastardy women too ... sad huh? ALL: thanks for all the invaluable comments. i have learnt lots about skirt-chasers. never have i hunt so hard for one ... hopefully it helps ... thank you ... this forum rocks ... lizard

sorry folks ... poor grammar the topic should read "how to go after a skirt in double-quick time" hahahahahahahahahaha enjoy ... time to show off ... guys ... lizard

hi ALL, here we go ... let's do some field reports here (non-RA21 please) ... with nice cars ... without cars ... with youth and looks ... without youth and looks ... with money ... without money ... with contacts ... without contacts ... free for all to talk ... TACTICS i (we) will post my (our) encounters if any ... hahahahahahahaha please do not mention names ... very hurtful to the gal ... lizard

hi ALL, so many writings ... i hope all have benefited from this discussion too. the type of gal ... hmmmm ... better not say it in this forum, otherwise the rating will need to be increased. i have done some searching on the net about affordable sports cars ... BM 6 - 4.5L too big for me, can't afford. lexus 300 - okie but not very sporty. accord euro r - 2L is little too "small" for me. i have a hideous tail that needs to be hidden from public view. evo 9 - 2L. BMs Vincent and Patrick, please tell which beemer is a good skirt-chaser ... thx rx-6 or 8 - 1.6L. lexus 430 - 4.3L too big for me, nice but can't afford. lotus - i think it is expensive ... Saab, Audi, SLK, Beemers, mini, 206, beetle - i think all very ex leh ... maybach, RR, Bentley - when i become an adopted son of sultan ... i think in singapore there are less than 50 of these creatures around. obviously i am not rich ... let alone top 50s ... dradttg - spending on gals. that's the last thing i will do from now on (very wimpy) ... don't worry i will learn from the gurus here and bkk and give my field reports later after the car is bought. patrick - "I think car is not the main factor. It helps but not the main factor unless you are in a bentley (sit in the backseat and not the one driving it)." since you said a bentley does matter, then a nice car does matter, i will report it back to you ... later when i get my gears working ... piglet - oui ... i am just playing the system. see what's the result ... a fair game as pilot said. RAV-65 - vincent: no more chionging ... you are kidding me ... come on be a man ... hahahahaha pilot - "Heard from many horses mouth, if you know what I mean. Personally, you need to know where the fine line is, to get or not to get involved. Anyway, it is just a game, a very fair game. Ask yourself, is the girl you are going after is for you or your money, one must have a clear mind, head rules, heart loose." never trust an old horse to the game .... hahahahahahahaha ... do me a favour ... i will sms you when ... please don't go near zouk or china black or devils ... otherwise me smallish lizard no chance against the soaring eagle. seriously, my search yield very little results: ... sigh ... skirt-chasing also so hard ... mostly yield the silly car nissan 350z to be within my budget ... lizard

dear weisoon, go JJ disco - largest in shag hai ... lizard

Dear Pilot: don't be like that leh ... i know your experience is way beyond me. i only just started. my time was robbed by the property bubble in 1997. now then, the lizard comes out to play. not like you, i went through a retrenchment of my business. you asked so difficult question, i may have ace-ed the school but not the skirts. so please be gentle with me ... lah. give me time, i promise to grow stronger. thanks for the advice on expensive or cheap perishable valueless gifts. i certainly made a mistake by giving her money. no more. thanks a million again for the advice. hmmm ... power centre? no, it is in my opinion not deep pockets. we would like to think it as deep pockets but it is really not. how do i know ... well ... it came from many gals' survey. power centre implies influence. just like in a game of GO, although the game is decided on the number of territories captured, the game is essentially a game of influence. if you are able to build up your influence, this influence is then used to capture the needed territories to win. sometimes, the win might be a 0.5 stone, but it is still a win. you don't have to win big. by exacting your influence, one wins the gal, no matter how close the game was. if you are the towkay ... you may influence her $ sign, but the influence is not great. you must acquire the ingredient of power. use the $, BUT NEVER SPEND ON THE GAL DIRECTLY. you must exact influence. win the favour amongst your kakis and the mutual friends of hers. BUT NOT HER. that's influence. her friends would uhhhh - arhhhh for you, whenever she is around. you have become a pseudo-power centre. a young guy with the backing of his family's wealth drives a beemer is close to the actual power centre that has great power hence great influence, although you and i know that is rubbish. but, thats how gals operate. a minister's son needs not drive anything. he will be the most sought after creature. i fell into the wimpy trap as follows: i am a self-taught porkman. my little kingdom's footprints are now at some small parts of the middle earth. soon my kingdom will be in far more places. i have been made poor by the property bubble. now i am crawling out. i need a spectator of one to see what i have done and can do. not to show off but to share. i also need a honest gal to guard my pork while i am not in those places (i know very chinaman or asian mentality). i have found this gal whom i think might fit the bill. i have plan to let her play about 300k to 1m a year just for her pleasure. hence, i tried wooing her. guess what? after about 25k spending ... she became so optimistic and thought that she has learnt enough and could conquer the middle earth WITHOUT me, but with her boy-boy prince. that's what cheesed me off. she went for the potential in the boy prince than to the actual power centre (me). this illustrates my point as to why gals go for size of power centre. need not be bird in hand worths 10 in bushes. gals just want to be near or at the largest power centres in town. be it real or illusionary ... sigh ... i am not admitting defeat ... just changing my tactics to fit a realistic b**chy world. Creetin & dravan: hyundai azera 3.3 is very nice very cheap very powerful very FAMILY. so not good ... leh for skirt-chaser. what do you think? tuscani and celica and integra are 2.0L cars. a little too small for true skirt-chaser. i am thinking nissan 350z. don't know it is a good skirt-chaser? please help me ... thx zehuan: ferrari is my car in canada hopefully quickly .... hahahahahaha ... meanwhile play with jap or conty cars first lor as a simple skirt-chaser. patrick: where have you been? bm 3 series? 320i or 323i or 325i or 330i? or what? doesn't look that fierce leh. why this car? please help ... lizard

answer WEISOON first: you are right. gals must never be bought using money. my guys were all full of china mei meis and some locals. they were all bastardy to their gals. i refused to be one of them. i kanna left right centre ... darn. what we need to give them is a power centre. if one is the power centre, sit back and relax. they will come for you instead. just pamper yourself and look gorgeous. i did just that last times, i got my wives/mistresses for more than 10 years each. darn ... now i thought i like this gal ... so i decided to do some showering ... darn ... wrong tactics. they only love to be spanked. be glad sir, i almost committed to give >100k. lucky me ... the gal i guess chickened out. even if one is not the power centre, just show that one is super near to the real power centre. they will also come for us, like CEOs, senior managers, pay-masters, captains of ship. the reason why i failed i guess was because i thought i could still love ... sigh ... wimpy thoughts ... gals dun like. RAV-65: we better meet up soon ... long time no see ... no more giving, i will just give promises or empty ones like last time. giving real gifts of value are wrongfully wimpy. they asked for it ... sigh ... LoReNsIa: RX-7 new car? RX-5 i remembered was only 1.6L. not strong enough as a true skirt-chaser. one reefer suggested cabri, but that was the type of cars i will buy for the gal. not drive myself, not man enough. ah^siao & mUAr_cHEe: budget car at 3.0 to 4.0L? i think have lah ... otherwise wouldn't ask this question. i am hoping for the best car in this range as a skirt-chaser, not as a man's toy. as long as skirts fall-in, okie liao. patrick: to answer that Q of yours and weisoon's, yes, guys should NEVER spend on the gals. both of you are right, gals wants to show that they are in or owned the power centre. hence, if one must give, i will give expensive but valueless gifts such as handbags and dinners. but, not some other things which i gave but considered value. i was considered a wimp and hence the bad treatment. guys who are incapable of being selfish and pamper themselves are considered wimps. funny but true. women are darn stupid in this sense. NEVER will i commit that mistake again. FUEL: shaguar ... nice but very ex. not within my budget, i think. after all, this silly car is not for my business, don't need to spend so much lah. spiderone: what is a silvia? i saw them on the road. not very stylo milo. akirasan, dravan, rocks, mUAr_cHEe, somebody: BM 6, z4-5, m5 all i like but no budget ... after all they are 4.5L to 5L, so out of my suggested range ... hehehehehe lambo? hello ... if i drove a lambo. that silly b**** wouldn't leave me. i like the zhao geng part. for that, i think i have found my first feature; must be a two-door cockpit car. hmmm .... nice discussion. piglet: humvee ... who on earth will the skirts sit in the truck? zehuan: BM 6 same same i also like ... in fact i like ferrari better. when i land in canada, my wifey has already approved the purchase of a ferrari for my (our?) pleasure. so i just wait my time lah ... kelstorm: hello ... be reasonable. we are in serious discussion okie ! which skirt will board a private bus/van. although they do it daily in public. darn ... women. unfortunately, kel, this is funny life we are in. we guys love by giving and caring, the gals think we are sh*t. serve them right, i return to my bastardy life style. this world has just lost a nice guy because gals don't like nice guys. pity? hor? The Lizard on heat

hi ALL, so touched by all you guys sincerity ... my heart just melted if i am just a simple gal. confession time: NO, i am not sultan's son ... i am a self-made porkman. recently, i spent like 25k on a gal but, received the very short end of the stick. i then read books, books, books, books ... and also The Game (good read, guys) i cannot love any more (sadly) ... by loving, it only implies i am a wimp. Patrick: your tactics about spending on the gal will not work in sg, trust me ... hard fact unfortunately ... execution time: now i only like to love myself and forget about the past. ohhh ... please guys ... buy lotus, porsches and etc ... darn i am not that rich lah. every penny i earned comes with sweat and tears and heavy toil ... so i only need a decent skirt-chaser ... not too expensive, just right for my pocket ... maybe any recommendation in the 3.0 to 4.0 L range. The hurt Lizard on play

hi ALL, long time no see ... i hope you guys and dolls can help a poor soul like me to resolve a life-threathening issue ... thanks. The smallish Lizard at play

PAIN ... you do not know pain if you have not sat by the high road to Zendi, the great god of middle earth, for 2 hours and can't find a reason why she behaved the way she did ... you do not know pain if you have not felt the great numbness in your head and you just simply want to bang your head against the wall to soothe that numbness ... you do not know pain if you have not felt the great stone resting on your chest, and you simply have to sigh to get rid of that feeling ... you do not know pain if you have not tear-ed in the small hours of the night ... you do not know pain if you have not closed your eyes and crossed the high roads where chariots rode, hoping that Zendi will claim you instantly ... sigh ... The king pulled out the spear and killed the attacking orc with a single swing of his sword. but, this injury has further weakened the mighty peasant king. suddenly, a horn sounded. the orcs stopped their fightings and obediently parted themselves into two halves leaving the centre empty and wide. a hugh black chariot appeared. Beamer, the fabled orc prince has arrived. his face was hideous with great disfigurement. his fangs were unusually large and his cat-like slit eyes were stained with yellow fluid. the chariot stopped barely 50 m from the king's position. the king struggled to regain his standing posture. Beamer shouted in a booming voice, "the situation is hopeless. why don't you just give it all up?" the king took a deep breath and replied, "NO! not when the last pork man still stand on defence." "but, you must. i am in love with Beamer ... we are getting married in 3 year's time ..." just then a small figure in bright golden dress appeared from behind the chariot. at last, the king got to see his little beautiful princess, Heidi, once again. her wonderous face was as gay as the morning sun can be. it is like a golden tulip bulb blossoming at the height of summer. her appearance has definitely renewed the king's strength. the king stretched his left hand out trying to reach out to her, though she was still far away. the king asked curiously, "if you are in love and getting married, why, my dear, that you are now tearing?" Heidi replied "No way will i fall for you. you are old and hideous and i am young. AND Beamer is rich." the king asked again, "if Beamer is rich, then why are you not on chariot? why are you alone with no servants? further, the orc prince has many siblings that will challenge his claim to his heirloom. he may not be the future true orc king ..." Heidi sobbed softly with a smallest of tears in her eyes replied, "i am in love with Beamer ..." the king took a step closer towards the princess still with his out-reached left hand ... suddenly, a white lightning striked the king's arm, severing it from his elbow socket. crimson fluid flew out of the king's body drawing his life force away ... the king fell backward and faced up ... a hugh looming black cloud appeared in front of the king. on closer examination, the cloud showed a whitish face - the face of the Queen Mother. the queen mother shouted to the king, "YOU ... SHALL NOT ... PASS!!!" "do you know what are you doing?" she said in an angry voice. "do you not know what you have done to my daughter, she respected you so much and yet you took advantage of the situation ..." "just look at you ... although you were once human, you now looked more like pig. you have flapping ears and a snouted nose ... you are far more hideous than Beamer ... how can you be worthy of my daughter's hand?" little by little, the life force of the king is fading ... there is no more hope. hope that once was is lost ... for now there is none to remember ... ... just when all hopes faded. PIGLET, the soothe-sayer appeared in the niche of time ... he conjured a mighty picture of lovely creatures swarming out to all of helm's deep ... giving hope to those who have lost hope ... giving peace to those who have lost peace ... giving life to those who have lost lives. ... the king felt a great sense of relief ... he felt a soothing feeling creeping towards his left arm soothing it ... good old PIGLET ... once again, the king's thoughts returned to hogwarts where he first met the princess Heidi ... such wonderful power of PIGLET, the conjurer. indeed he has since mastered his skills well ... BUT, was it enough to turn the table? ... sigh ... such pain ...

hi ALL, i have a sweeping statment to make: HONGKONG GOT NO CHIO BUs ... ALL OLD MAIDS ... my boos also went HK recently and concluded the same ... sigh ... where have all the flowers gone? plastic surgery? :blur: lizard

sorry ... sis JE, have a confession to make ... actually we have all deceived you ... there is one ring made in darkness that will rule them all ... by suggesting to you not to go ahead is like saying one should never take risk ... in that case no risk no return ... of course, the other way is NOT true: high risk high return ... most of the time is high risk never return ... bro zehuan will now explain his catch 22 theory ... otherwise you will land up on the dark side ... lizard

mountain tortoise usually don't learn so fast ...

when i want to laugh .... emmm ... i just look at you lor ...

yo ... sis JE, cat also must dress up hor ... otherwise your man run away ... my fish ran away today because i forgot to dose SUGAR ... damn woman ... lizard

hi cyclop, very glad you provided an outlet for me ... i love to share my talents here in Kopi Tiam ... but, i only share with skirts ... then how ... go bkk and do ######-change and i then share my talents with pants .... hehehehe lizard