SRC Member Ccccz Posted September 19, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted September 19, 2013 Seeking all seniors and experts advices. My tank is newly setup for 3 months. My nitrates test is horrendous. Mine is a 2ft cube with sump and skimmer is bubble Magnus nac 5. Using salifert no3 test kit and its reading the max of 100ppm, ammonia and nitrite is 0. Live stock currently only 1 fish some corals. 2 frags of zoas, 1 Clove and 1 bubble. I feed a pinch of pellets every 3 days. I don't have chaeto in my refugium as iwarna don't have. Anywhere else can buy chaeto? So far I did multiple wc but the nitrates are still high. 10 packs of nsw for 1 wc and every week I change 50 L of nsw. Still doesn't work. I read nitrates may be tolerant to fishes so I added 1 clown so far but he didn't get past 4 days. Thought of getting chemical assistance in the form of seachem de-nitrate but sent Seaview but they ran out. Any valuable advices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeneryx Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 if i were you i would change more than 50% of water. dont know if that works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishyfishyfishy Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 carbon dosing, biopellet, or use vodka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ccccz Posted September 19, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 19, 2013 I'm thinking of vinegar since vodka promotes cyno. I getting some cyno on the sandbed recently. I've off my lights totally now since livestock and corals ain't that much. Can anyone advice if iwarna or any one does home visits of doing at least 60% wc. Lugging 30 packets of nsw in my car doesn't sound very appealing. And yeah, I don't have a ro unit at home to churn that amount of water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetAirwaves Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Might want to check your phosphates as well. Fuel recently shared that for nitrates to go down, phosphates need to be present. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. I personally have never experienced such a phenomena, however it could be a cause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member diki88 Posted September 20, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted September 20, 2013 Get a new test kit. Its possible although highly unlikely u tio a bad box. Plus, if ur nitrates were to be that bad, ur corals most prob gone. But since u didn't mention it, I shall assume ur corals are doing fine. If the new test kit also reflects 100ppm, search ur rocks for dying matter. Something is decomposing badly in ur tank. Do one times large WC again. Ur phosphates are there if not there would not be any cyano. Which means ur phosphate is not the limiting factor to ur nitrates going down as per the Redfield ratio. After all that, I still suggest getting a new test kit. Quote Quis custodiet ipsos custodes Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want to impress people they don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 do check your NSW for nitrates also, just saying that could be a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ccccz Posted September 20, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 20, 2013 My corals are doing ok. No casualties, just the fishes. I was previously using API and the no3 readings was high. Recently bought this new salifert no3 test kit. Will go buy another salifert just to be sure. I never tried testing the nsw though. Will try later. Just got some chaeto and de-nitrate. See if these may help. The phosphate theory sounds cool. Better test phosphate as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member woyeng** Posted September 21, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted September 21, 2013 I use biosphere and rowasphos combo to maintain very low nitrates and phosphate readings. There are other methods like supplementing Chaeto, use zeolite, etc... Most impt thing is to allow time for your tank to cycle first. Don't be hasty in putting livestocks in.... My tank is 6 months still not completely cycled Also, use RO/DI water instead of tap water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blusafe Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 If you are having cyanobact bloom all over everything with 3 month old tank, your live rock is probably having mass die-off. Surprising the corals are not responding. I'm guessing that's where all your pollution is coming from if your bio-load is light, little nutrient input, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyot123 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Check using test .all that u dump in ur tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ccccz Posted September 30, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 30, 2013 Did more then 50% water change. Nitrates going down.... Thanks for all the valuable advices.,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewind79 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Do water change regularly, if possible bi-weekly 10-20% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ccccz Posted October 15, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 15, 2013 Guys, just an update. Didn't had time to post. After 50% wc, nitrates was tested immediately and looks ok. So next day tested again. Went up to the dark pink salifert no3 result again. Recently this week, can't take it, do a massive 90% change with nsw. Tested that very night and its still dark pink. Use 2 different sets of salifert same result. Ammonia and no2 is zero.... I'm lost. I'm suspecting I previously poured hot water over 2 LR. It's been like 2 months back and the LR is in the tank... Could they be leaching no3? Coralline has already start to built up on these rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherman Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 What is your PO4 value and your SG? Quote 6.5 * 2 * 2 + 3.75 * 1.5 *1.5,(Decomn on 14/9/08) 4*2*2 + 2.5*1.25*1.25 (Decomn on 1/8/09) 5*2*2 (Fully LED light system, 140 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 2.5*2*2(Fully LED Light System,96 3 watt SSC leds with 60 degree lens)(Decomm) 5*2.5*2(LED only) Eheim return 1 * pump 1 HP Daikin compressor with cooling coil 2 Jebao OW40, 1 ecotech MP40, 1X6085 Tunze wm, 1 CURVE 7 Skimmer 1 DIY 80 led control by Bluefish mini 1 radion XR30W G2, 2 Radion XR15G3 Sump area lite by 5 ft T5 , 6 * SSC 3 watt red LED for refugium 1 Full spectrum E27 led light 1 CR control by bubble count Start No Water Change since 1st Dec 2016 Add new 2.5x2x 1.5 ft [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ccccz Posted October 17, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 17, 2013 I didn't buy the PO4 Test kit. SG is 1.023 with the refractor. I tested the NSW also. Same.... Also dark pink! Can't be leh. 2 kits also tio bad stock? Don't believe it, I will buy another kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraken Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 as I said, could be your NSW thats the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PordingPrime Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 my nitrate is ~40 for 3mos until i increase biopellet dosage, that time my alveo rip, then now is zero, but some of my zoas is not fully opening now, and my octo tentacles shrink by half, i think zero nitrate also not good to some corals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member youdontnowm Posted October 22, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted October 22, 2013 Dose sugar! 1.8Teaspn / 25gallon. Every 2 days. I dose 1 teaspn everyday for 2days , nitrate went from 40 to 20 in 2days. Initially it was 80 , it dropped to 40 with biopellets in 1 week. Water will be cloudy! No lifestock lost so far. All is ok. Take a look about it in RC. Its working for me. Its the same as dosing vodka or vinegar etc~ My tank is 140gallon btw lol xD Sudden drop of parametwrs like nitrate is not good for corals. But i cant wait so no choice. Everything is happy Quote | Display : 48x30x22 Skimmer : SK-201 skimz | Sump : 30x24x18 Wavemaker : 2x RW-15 , 1x RW-8 | Cooling : 1HP titanium drop in coil ATO : JBJ | Lighting : ATI Sunpower 8x54w + 48x cree xte royal blue Return : Jebao dc-6000 | Dosing : Jebao dosing pump [ CaCl2 + NaHCO3 ] Pump : | Reactor : FSZ Z160 zeolite reactor & phosban 150 | System : ZEOVIT decomm-ed : Ydkm SPS reef >><< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelvetAirwaves Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Dose sugar! 1.8Teaspn / 25gallon. Every 2 days. I dose 1 teaspn everyday for 2days , nitrate went from 40 to 20 in 2days. Initially it was 80 , it dropped to 40 with biopellets in 1 week. Water will be cloudy! No lifestock lost so far. All is ok. Take a look about it in RC. Its working for me. Its the same as dosing vodka or vinegar etc~ My tank is 140gallon btw lol xD Sudden drop of parametwrs like nitrate is not good for corals. But i cant wait so no choice. Everything is happy I think for bigger tank its okay to follow the teaspoon method, smaller tank abit difficult to measure 1.8 teaspoons. Imo, measuring spoon is the easiest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Underwater Posted October 22, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted October 22, 2013 I find it very strange that your nitrate can be so high despite such huge water change and with super low livestock - 1 fish? I could only narrow down to: 1. Something big is dying (corals, esp anemone) and polluting your tank (unlikely to be the LR since it's already two months) 2. NSW that you bought is the source of problem (but i doubt so) 3. Faulty testkit (but Salifret is known for accuaracy unless it's expired) I know it's frustrating but try to find out the source and get rid of the root problem first, then talk about other methods later like dosing sugar/volka and using all those biopellets now which will not solve the bigger problem if nitrate is continuously rising. How about posting some tank and sump pics and see other reefers can help to locate the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Caapora Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 What sort of media do you have in your sump to accommodate anaerobic bacteria which breaks down nitrates? Meanwhile, suggest you use this product called Chemipure to clean up your water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Wy Looi Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 I have this problem too, trying to solve hopefully nitrates will go down soon. Thanks for the info on this thread will try out the methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Natural method of N03 reduction, a large scrubber, deep sand bed, or growing algae in refugium. Alternatively you can use bio pallets, bio sphere, or liquid bacteria like AZn03 ect.. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefreef Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Bro, go for denitrator with sulphur beads. Never had problems with nitrate since i introduced it in my setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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