SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 19, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi guys, Recently bought few fished like venustus, multibar, golden, regal angel separately, not in one go. they all died in a few days in beta box in my tank, while my existing queen and fire fishes are all fine. no ich, no other sign. some of them just start eating and active, there are pipe for them to hide, so less stress. But they just gone on the 2nd day. New fish are all introduced in before 1 hr dip with para guard. no over dose. Tank stable for SPS, but doing vodka dosing at 2.5 ml for 600L water. Any advice or guess of the reason why fish died? Vodka dosing will kill the fish? esp those new introduced fish? thanks Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member digibee Posted May 19, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi bro, Last time I also dose vodka; did not kill any of my old fish or new fish. Of course you dose in high wave area; not directly at the fish. Also; I just acclimatize the fish with the tank water. No medicine. Your 1 hour dip with para guard is it done in a tank/tub with wave maker on? Also, those fish you mention; are by no means easy fish to keep. Cheers! Quote () Happy will do ... (o_o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 19, 2014 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi bro, Last time I also dose vodka; did not kill any of my old fish or new fish. Of course you dose in high wave area; not directly at the fish. Also; I just acclimatize the fish with the tank water. No medicine. Your 1 hour dip with para guard is it done in a tank/tub with wave maker on? Also, those fish you mention; are by no means easy fish to keep. Cheers! thanks bro, my 1 hour dip with para guard with a air pump in a black tub. yes, i know i challenged myself to try those fishes, but they are really nice and love them. I can accept those difficult fishes die in slim or no feeding, but cant understand why they die Fat....LOL Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnsfpl Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 these are difficult only fish, and need plenty of luck to get a healthy specimen a mature tank with natural food source - algae, pods, tiny shrimps etc etc - will greatly increase their chance of survival my experience with these fish multibar, once, died after a month, maybe tank not matured enough regal, once, after 3 months still depend on natural food source, end up sell to a reefer with larger tank golden, twice, both feeding but died after 4-6 months, 1st died when i went taiwan holiday, 2nd due to "hole in head" good luck bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member diki88 Posted May 19, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 thanks bro, my 1 hour dip with para guard with a air pump in a black tub. yes, i know i challenged myself to try those fishes, but they are really nice and love them. I can accept those difficult fishes die in slim or no feeding, but cant understand why they die Fat....LOL Maybe when u try next time can just release them into the main tank. These fishes sensitive to stress. Just need to make sure none as big as ur qyeen. Quote Quis custodiet ipsos custodes Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want to impress people they don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 19, 2014 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 these are difficult only fish, and need plenty of luck to get a healthy specimen a mature tank with natural food source - algae, pods, tiny shrimps etc etc - will greatly increase their chance of survival my experience with these fish multibar, once, died after a month, maybe tank not matured enough regal, once, after 3 months still depend on natural food source, end up sell to a reefer with larger tank golden, twice, both feeding but died after 4-6 months, 1st died when i went taiwan holiday, 2nd due to "hole in head" good luck bro Wah thanks Bro for u r sharing. Seems next time I should release to my sump directly as there got pods, Algae, Sponge... lol. Ya. This difficult fish really not easy. Appreciate u r reply. btw u still in reefing? Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 19, 2014 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 Maybe when u try next time can just release them into the main tank. These fishes sensitive to stress. Just need to make sure none as big as ur qyeen. I hear u bro. Will try next time. =) Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnsfpl Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 imo if your sump big enough, place them there 1 feet cube is good enough for dwarf angels put a few pvc to make them comfortable let them condition to your water and buff them up with prepared food currently not "reefing" any more, keeping fowlr now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Bulldozer Posted May 19, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 Hi guys, Recently bought few fished like venustus, multibar, golden, regal angel separately, not in one go. they all died in a few days in beta box in my tank, while my existing queen and fire fishes are all fine. no ich, no other sign. All belongs to difficult angelfish series ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted May 19, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 19, 2014 Could it be salinity shock? Did you do slow water mix for acclimatisation to your tank parameters? Cos normally lfs will keep their tank water salinity low to control ich and parasites. If the fishes you bought are quarantined fishes and you have done all the necessary steps to acclimatise it. I guess can only doubt the method how the fish were caught. Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member oceanviper Posted May 20, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 20, 2014 I have just started dosing volka and so far no issue with my livestock or coral. Quote Tank : 3 x 2 x 1.8 ( setup end Feb 2014 ) --> 4 x 2 x 1.8 ( setup early Nov 2016 ) Skimmer : Bubble Magus NAC6 --> Bubble Magus Curve 7 Return pump : Jebao 10000l/h ( down in 17th December 2014 ) --> Jebao DC-12000 ( 19th December 2014 ) Compressor drop-in coil Wavemaker : Tunze 6105 x 1 Lights : Modular based DIY LED light x 4 Chaeto in the sump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 20, 2014 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 20, 2014 Could it be salinity shock? Did you do slow water mix for acclimatisation to your tank parameters? Cos normally lfs will keep their tank water salinity low to control ich and parasites. If the fishes you bought are quarantined fishes and you have done all the necessary steps to acclimatise it. I guess can only doubt the method how the fish were caught. Cheers, James Yup all slowly drip Ard 30mins to 1 hr. The last think I can doubt would be the method being caught. Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 20, 2014 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 20, 2014 I have just started dosing volka and so far no issue with my livestock or coral. Great. Just slowly add. Result to coral are obviously good. =) Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted May 20, 2014 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 20, 2014 Found an similar experience from reefs on RC, seems bacterial and Less oxygen may be the cause. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2168087 Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted May 20, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted May 20, 2014 Oxygen level drop might be link to carbon dosing causing too much bacteria bloom and depletion of oxygen. That's why we normally route biopellets reactor outlet hose to the skimmer. Cheers, James http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/105744-the-journey-to-the-valley-of-the-reef-by-james/'> Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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