Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Last night, I noticed all my fishes were breathing heavily even until this morning. I don’t see them swimming up to the surface to gasp for air. No fatality upon now. I did 30percent water change immediately when I saw the issue last night and add on a portable air pump to aerate the water surface. From your experience, do you know what cause the issue? Adding on, yesterday afternoon, I did added a new return pump to replace the faulty ones. Will that be an issue too? Water parameter has no issue tested via salifert. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member R0B Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 Could be many reasons. Typically I would initially think is water chemistry - but you said all params ok but, did you test for Ammonia? (I would suggest you rule out ammonia issues). It could be something attacking the immune system of the fish (e.g. velvet, did you add any new fish? QT?). You mentioned your return was faulty. This could cause a few issues if you are not running water through your filters (eg. carbon), but this would show up in you Params. It could a lack of CO2 displacement/exchange in this case adding an air stone (like you did) would help as it causes more gas exchange. Make sure wavemakers are creating enough agitation. Just some ideas. Hope it helps. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Thank you for responding. Upon now, there’s not fatality yet. Hopefully not to have one. I did not add any fish at all and the tank has been running for 7months. All corals are opening up. This morning I fed mysis shrimp and fish still go for the food desperately. However, I still can see they’re gasping for air but not getting air from the water surface. Their gills are open up and close rapidly. There’s 0 ammonia according to my test kit. However, my nitrate is 50ppm. I’ve stopped my air pump for the aeration now and see how it goes. I’ve a wave maker provide aeration for lower areas as my output pump will do the work on aerating the surface. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 How long have you kept Yr fishes and what are they.... Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 2ft tank. Kept for 7 months. 5chromis, 2 black clown, 2 damsels, 1 pajamas; 2 cardinal, 4 turbo, 1 fire shrimp, 1 peppermint and 1 cleaner shrimp.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 I’ve a refugium running Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 An hour ago, I decrease the level of the water so the output can provide more air bubble. I can see my peppermint just molted. Also my pajamas and cardinal not breathing heavily. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member soggycookies Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 An hour ago, I decrease the level of the water so the output can provide more air bubble. I can see my peppermint just molted. Also my pajamas and cardinal not breathing heavily. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app it could be lack of oxygenation in the water. if their bodies look fine and not patchy/covered in a whitish film or spots, it’s probably just the oxygen level in your tank- assuming you’ve tested ammonia and that isn’t the issue eitherSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member leong_rei Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 Check your kh ph and isit once u change water it become like that some time if u change too much water never add anti chorine will cause this too Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member leong_rei Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 If still like that try pump your hand in the tank to check see any leak or electrical Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member equiox Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 How is your fish now? Follow my instagram at https://www.instagram.com/reefparadisez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yxuann Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Following Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 I have checked. No leakage of electricity in the water. I still can do fragging on my sps. Until now, no fatality yet. But one of my small black clownfish looks white. Then rest are okay but still gasping for air.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 I used prime for my water change. My kH are at the correct range. Never check for pH as I never had any test kit for that since I don’t use all alongSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 This is my current black clownfish Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member soggycookies Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 This is my current black clownfish Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app looks like you have a pathogenic parasite outbreak in your tank. looks like either brook or velvet from this pic to meSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 This fish is active and still go for food. How can I do here? Please advise thanks!!Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member R0B Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 Not an expert on disease, but I have to say that the pic looks like marine velvet. Have a look for White spots, dusty looking skin, difficulty breathing, scratching on rocks. Fingers crossed that I am wrong. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member R0B Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 If it is velvet... Suggest you do the following. Remove all fish from your tank. Put in a fresh water dip (try match temp and ph). Min 2 mins. Then place fish in a quarantine system (buckets will work). Add air stone. Treat with copper. Be prepared to loose a lot of the fish. https://www.thesprucepets.com/marine-ich-velvet-coral-fish-disease-2924982Also google humblefish on reef2reef. Good luck!!!! Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Otaku Reefer Posted July 17, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 yes, agree with Rob, gasping for air is one sign of parasites as they attack the gills, if they start swimming against the power head its also highly likely velvet its strange you didnt add anything but still got this sudden outbreak after 7months. Do note anything wet u add got risk, its not limited to fish. if u go LFS buy coral or invert and u see the fish is infected, its best u do quarantine the coral in a fishless tank for few weeks. Its possible the parasite is free swimming and happen to attach to the coral or inverts u buy. U probably will need to do copper treatment in another tank and leave the tank fallow for 1-2months to be safe.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Thank you for the advise. I put it in a freshwater for 5mins to dip and now it’s in a pail of saltwater with air stone circulating the water. I will leave it there a night and next morning see how it goes. Hopefully will be fineSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefboy Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 No fatality upon now. I kept my low health black clown at a quarantine. I can see it’s color has come back. For now, I will monitor until it swim normally. The rest of my fishes have gone back to display tank as I don’t have another quarantine tank. No gasping of air nor weird swimming behavior for the rest of them.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member leong_rei Posted July 18, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 18, 2020 If is velvet u need set up another tank to keep all your fish until your main tank 1-2month fishes then can put it back if not now u put back also no use velvet will kill it in few days timeSent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member equiox Posted July 18, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 18, 2020 It's not velvet. It's either fluke or brook Follow my instagram at https://www.instagram.com/reefparadisez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Indeco Posted July 18, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted July 18, 2020 No fatality upon now. I kept my low health black clown at a quarantine. I can see it’s color has come back. For now, I will monitor until it swim normally. The rest of my fishes have gone back to display tank as I don’t have another quarantine tank. No gasping of air nor weird swimming behavior for the rest of them.Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Bro, it look like brook outbreak. U need to act fast. Below is the link for brook treatment.https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/If can get the Ruby Reef Rally from FNM and do the bath and treatment.At the sametime get Seachem Metroplex from near by LFS and make medicated food and feed your fish in the main tank and observe them closely.Ruby is gd for bath but can also be dose in your reef tank but may not be so not effective.Hope this help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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