SRC Member southpaw23 Posted February 28, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 Hi all, Well, the tanks still a good 2 months away from going up but figured this would be a good place to start discussing tank plans etc. Here's what i got so far Tank Details Tank Size : 66"x24"x27" (with 8" side overflow - makin the viewable 58") Sump tank : 30"x18"x18" Return Pump : Still deciding, tentatively 2 x OR3500 Chiller : Chill Down Drop in Coil and Compressor Skimmer : Deltec AP701 Lights : ATI Powermodule 54wx6 Flow : Wavebox and probably 2 x Tunze 6045s Tank Maker : Geo Aquatic Other Details Essentially, the tank will be an inwall/divider tank between the living room and the master bedroom So a 2 sided viewing tank, one from the living room and the other from the bedroom. There will be no access to the tank from the living room as there'll be a false wall erected to give the impression of an inwall tank setup. While in the bedroom, there'll be floor to ceiling cabinetry, which is where i'll be accessing the tank from and housing all the equipment. A lil difficult to imagine right now i'm sure but when i get pics and plans, i'll post em up to give ya'll a better idea. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bluezing Posted February 28, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 all da best bro~ cant wait to ssee the pics! Quote www.sengkang.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted February 28, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 all da best bro~ cant wait to ssee the pics! Thanks buddy...unfortunately pics won't be up for quite a bit..it'll have to be schematics and plans for the meantime Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted February 28, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 I've drawn up an initial diagram to work on with the tank maker...the overall layout isn't firm tho but it'll give you an idea of what kinda stuff i'm tryin to incorporate into the tank setup. Oh and this'll be a largely LPS dominated reef....will hold out on venturing into SPS for now Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenYO Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Looking good bro for light should go for ATI Powermodule 54wx8, as for Tunze make it 6055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammy Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Looking good bro for light should go for ATI Powermodule 54wx8, as for Tunze make it 6055 as ur tank is big , tunze nano might not be a good choice, go for bigger stream ( 6060/6080)as the radial flow they cover is wider and more effective. Quote 2x1.5x1.5 tank Lighting: AI hydra 52HD Skimmer: Deltec SC 1455 Reactor: Minimax; rowaphos Skimz ; NP biopellets Wave Maker: MP 40 WQD Return pump: Eheim 1262 Chiller: Arctica 1/10 hp A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel -- Proverbs 12:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted February 28, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 Thanks for the input guys...as for the lighting suggestion..the way i see it, if it's not sufficient, i'll just DIY another 2 T5-HO's to suppliment the existing powermodule... Plus, i got the existing PM off another reefer at a good price so will stick to it for now As for flow...seeing that it's an LPS dominated tank, i didn't see the need for too much flow, plus, don't quite like the sigh of the existing streams in the tank. The nano's are a lil more "aesthetically" pleasing Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenYO Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 As for flow...seeing that it's an LPS dominated tank, i didn't see the need for too much flow, plus, don't quite like the sigh of the existing streams in the tank. The nano's are a lil more "aesthetically" pleasing ever consider close loop?? phil will be able to provide perfect cut holes on glass using laser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted February 28, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 Did you go with a closed loop on ur system? The way i see it, the Nano's are more power efficient than the pumps that is needed to run a closed loop. Plus the flow would be a lot narower. Unless ur talkin about incorporating an inductor to the outlet. Phil mentioned that to me previously Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenYO Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Did you go with a closed loop on ur system? The way i see it, the Nano's are more power efficient than the pumps that is needed to run a closed loop. Plus the flow would be a lot narower. Unless ur talkin about incorporating an inductor to the outlet. Phil mentioned that to me previously initial idea is to have 2 close loop out let locate @ the front base glass firing toward the back overflow. But becasue of the braceless tank design, we decided not to drill to many holes on the base glass. Intend to replace with tunze 6055 but afraid not strong enough for sps tank so in the end go for 6100 insteal...I agree a bit bulky. btw any idea who's selling inductor locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted February 28, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 initial idea is to have 2 close loop out let locate @ the front base glass firing toward the back overflow. But becasue of the braceless tank design, we decided not to drill to many holes on the base glass. Intend to replace with tunze 6055 but afraid not strong enough for sps tank so in the end go for 6100 insteal...I agree a bit bulky. btw any idea who's selling inductor locally Not quite sure where to get inductors..why don't u check with Phil? The closed loop is still a consideration but like u, i'd like to try and stay away from drilling holes in the base glass...cannot afford a leak in the bulkheads at that location But again, since i'm not going with SPS...think i'll be ok for the flow...might get the 6055 if it comes out in time and if the hole in my pocket is patched by that time In the meantime, i will be relying on my returns and the wavebox to provide the flow for the tank at the initial stage. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member BFG Posted February 28, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 I really like your plan. Gravity fed skimmer is good, I've should have done it with my setup but am using a APF600 only. My only regret is that I should have gone with a bigger sump and the skimmer would be placed in it to contain any mishap that may arise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iceman Posted February 28, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted February 28, 2007 Bro, nice set up. Although u r keeping oly LPS, i think it better to get the TS 24 for that tank size . I'm using TS 48 for my 5' and there are still many die spot. Quote My Decom Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted March 1, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted March 1, 2007 BFG - Yeah...i liked the idea of the gravity feed to the skimmer as well, it was my tank makers idea. Seems like a much more efficient setup that way As for putting the skimmer internally...i dunno...i'm still on the fence about that...barring any mishaps...i like my skimmer clean externally.. Iceman - TS24? My only problem with that is the bulky tunze's in the main tank, which is why i'm opting for a concealed wavebox and maybe a couple of nanos. I wanna keep the tank as clutter free from equipment as possible. Might look into a couple of 6055s hooked to a multicontroller perhaps Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidjazz Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Kenny, i will suggest replacing the OR3500 with Aquabee 5000 or Eheim1262. Having tried all 3 pumps in the same tank, the Aquabee gave me the best performance of all. As for lightings wise, 2x MH will be better. But tt's just my personal opinion cuz i like the effect of MH. Quote 300 Gallon Reef Paradise 6X2.5X2.5 FT Tank : 4x2x2 ft sump : 2x1x2 ft refugim Skimmer: Deltec AP851 Calcium Reactor: Lightings: Aqualight T5 Retrofit, 150 watt MH X2 Chiller: Hailea HC-500A model w/ Aquabee 2000 Ozonizer: Hailea HLO-300 Digital ozonizer Wavemaker: Tunze 6080, Tunze 6060 Return Pumps: Aquabee 5000 x2 Other equipments: Aquabee 2000, Quietone 1200, 5L Co2 Cylinder w/ Dupla regulator American Marine Wireless Thermometer Reefing is a dedication, not a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted March 1, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted March 1, 2007 Kenny, i will suggest replacing the OR3500 with Aquabee 5000 or Eheim1262. Having tried all 3 pumps in the same tank, the Aquabee gave me the best performance of all. As for lightings wise, 2x MH will be better. But tt's just my personal opinion cuz i like the effect of MH. I heard that the Aquabee 5000s have issues with their impellors. Don't have any experience with them so can't comment. How has your pumps been doin thus far? No issues? As for the suggestion to use 1262s, aren't the flow rates the same? No flexibility on the lights for now i'm afraid as i've already purchased the powermodule off another reefer previously. Think i'll stick to them for now...i'll miss the shimmer but like the coverage of the T5s and the different color temp options available with the different tubes. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted March 9, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted March 9, 2007 Hi guys... After much debating, am considering replacing the original plan of two ORs with a single Red Dragon. Just wondering which of the models should i go with. It's now a toss up between the 10m3 or the 12m3. I'm leaning more towards the 10m3 but i know some here would suggest more is better which is why i'm puttin this up for discussion. Got a question tho, is there any ill effects to throttling down the output of a Red Dragon? I read that Sequence pumps become more power efficient when throttled down but not sure if the same applies to an RD? Cos if this were the case and if i were to find the flow too excessive, i can always reduce it some. As of now, the plan is to split the output to two one on each diagonal ends of the tank. My thinking is if i do go with the 12m3 and it's too powerful, i could always split it to 3 outputs instead. Anyways...lotsa weird ideas...what are your thoughts? Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member piero Posted March 9, 2007 SRC Member Share Posted March 9, 2007 Kenny, i will suggest replacing the OR3500 with Aquabee 5000 or Eheim1262. Having tried all 3 pumps in the same tank, the Aquabee gave me the best performance of all. As for lightings wise, 2x MH will be better. But tt's just my personal opinion cuz i like the effect of MH. Would have to agree with you. But somehow the problem I find with Aquabee pumps is that they seem to get pretty as the distance increases as compared to Ehiem pumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 more pics to be up soon Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 After months of waiting, the tank is finally up Tank details have changed slightly from the original plan. Here's the latest tank details Tank Size : 66"x27"x28" (8" external overflow) Sump tank : 36"x18"x18" Return Pump : Red Dragon 12m3 Chiller : Chill Down Drop in Coil and Compressor Skimmer : Deltec AP701 Lights : DE T5 Retrofit 80wx6 Flow : Still undecided Tank Maker : Geo Aquatic Finally got around to sorting out the pictures from taken over the last few weeks. Here's the first pic of the wall completely torn down I had the plumber run a pipe outlet along the left side wall to facilitate water changes. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 Here comes the tank stand : Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 Tank stand height at 39 inches. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 Tank stand view from the living room. It's yet to be put in its final resting place in this pic. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 Fast forwarding 2 weeks from the delivery of the stand, with major cabinet work completed, here's a look at the tank view in the bedroom. Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member southpaw23 Posted June 11, 2007 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2007 The incompleted false wall and view from the living room Quote Tank 66"x27"x28" - Return Pump Red Dragon 12m3 - Skimmer Deltec AP701 - Chiller Starmex - Wavemakers Wavysea - Lighting DE 6 x T5-HO southpaw23's reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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