Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Haha ya C.Altivelis is imo one of the nicest sail-fin type butterfly. But too bad i wan to keep a C.Pausifaciatus or C.Daedelma instead. C.Daedelma, reborn can get... End of year if never remember wrongly... Ah bee told me and lemon when we were there, dicussing about butterfly.... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 Haha ya C.Altivelis is imo one of the nicest sail-fin type butterfly. But too bad i wan to keep a C.Pausifaciatus or C.Daedelma instead. what's your experience on C. mesoleucos? if you have any. i find the white face brown body very striking. but never seen it in real life before. according to literature, very fierce. reef-safe wise? so far most of my residences are fairly reef safe being mostly chelmon sp, forcipiger sp and centropyge sp. the coradion and chaetodon paucifasciatus, mitratus and declives are the only questionable one but i'll let it slide. as long as there aren't too many 100% non-reef safe 1 it shud be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 C.Daedelma, reborn can get... End of year if never remember wrongly... Ah bee told me and lemon when we were there, dicussing about butterfly.... Yap i remember they told me end of the year. But i only intend to keep one butterfly, pauscifasciatus or daedelma, depending on which one comes in first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 what's your experience on C. mesoleucos? if you have any. i find the white face brown body very striking. but never seen it in real life before. according to literature, very fierce. reef-safe wise? so far most of my residences are fairly reef safe being mostly chelmon sp, forcipiger sp and centropyge sp. the coradion and chaetodon paucifasciatus, mitratus and declives are the only questionable one but i'll let it slide. as long as there aren't too many 100% non-reef safe 1 it shud be fine Not brought in before by LFS i think, or i've not seen it being brought in yet. The only one i've seen is a huge one at 7 inches on display w a large conspic in Aquarama last year. Literature says it's v easy except for getting too big in size. The big mesoleucos at aquarama was brought in by the same supplier of our recent gem tangs and conspics, so if u're interested in getting one u'll know who to approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 Not brought in before by LFS i think, or i've not seen it being brought in yet. The only one i've seen is a huge one at 7 inches on display w a large conspic in Aquarama last year. Literature says it's v easy except for getting too big in size. The big mesoleucos at aquarama was brought in by the same supplier of our recent gem tangs and conspics, so if u're interested in getting one u'll know who to approach. the problem is alot of these fishes come in at such big sizes. i dunno why really. golden butterflies, wrought iron, mesoleucos, semeion etc almost never come in around 3-4 inches. are there only large ones in the wild?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Yap i remember they told me end of the year. But i only intend to keep one butterfly, pauscifasciatus or daedelma, depending on which one comes in first. I think Daedelma is more worth to get.. You are one reefer that is very willing to spend!!! Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 the problem is alot of these fishes come in at such big sizes. i dunno why really. golden butterflies, wrought iron, mesoleucos, semeion etc almost never come in around 3-4 inches. are there only large ones in the wild?? Butterflies swim in the open in large group at big sizes. So big ones are easier to catch. Small juvi are singly and hiding or deeper so v hard to come by. I think Daedelma is more worth to get.. You are one reefer that is very willing to spend!!! I beg to differ, i think pauscifasciatus is more worth to get. Both are beautiful to me but i'm sure pauscifasciatus will come in smaller size and also it does not require low temp like daedelma plus it's pron ten times cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 terryz, paucifasciatus is SO MUCH nicer than xanthurus. compare the colour. Paucifasciatus is SOOOO RED while xanthurus is just a cheap orange knock-off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 terryz, paucifasciatus is SO MUCH nicer than xanthurus. compare the colour. Paucifasciatus is SOOOO RED while xanthurus is just a cheap orange knock-off Agree, it's like comparing carmabi to swalesi. The latter pales in comparison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 Agree, it's like comparing carmabi to swalesi. The latter pales in comparison! i've been looking for a swalesi for quite awhile now. the pictures on internet look quite nice. finally saw a pair at CF today and instantly said no. so dull in real life. a matchstick compared to the supernova that is carmabi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 anyway i managed to find a small C. mesoleucos. very cute when small. but they have the tendency of looking very long, length wise, when they get older... they're nicer when their fins are out stretched. i didn't know the eye bar will dissapear with age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 i've been looking for a swalesi for quite awhile now. the pictures on internet look quite nice. finally saw a pair at CF today and instantly said no. so dull in real life. a matchstick compared to the supernova that is carmabi. That's why the price is 40 times more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I think paucifasciatus, Lemon is asking Reborn to bring in... LOL.. Just not my type of butterfly.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i've been looking for a swalesi for quite awhile now. the pictures on internet look quite nice. finally saw a pair at CF today and instantly said no. so dull in real life. a matchstick compared to the supernova that is carmabi. I told you liao.. Dun believe... LOL.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 anyway i managed to find a small C. mesoleucos. very cute when small. but they have the tendency of looking very long, length wise, when they get older... they're nicer when their fins are out stretched. i didn't know the eye bar will dissapear with age There's another chaetodon tat looks rather similar to mesoleucos but it's v rare and unobtainable. It's Chaetodon nigropunctatus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 anyway i managed to find a small C. mesoleucos. very cute when small. but they have the tendency of looking very long, length wise, when they get older... they're nicer when their fins are out stretched. i didn't know the eye bar will dissapear with age Quite nice actually... But rarely bought in, only saw 1-2 times before... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 There's another chaetodon tat looks rather similar to mesoleucos but it's v rare and unobtainable. It's Chaetodon nigropunctatus. this one even more similar! C. dialeucos! even rarer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 I think paucifasciatus, Lemon is asking Reborn to bring in... LOL.. Just not my type of butterfly.. i know u like black fish like wrought iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 this one even more similar! C. dialeucos! even rarer.. Dunno why but this one is so ugly in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i know u like black fish like wrought iron. Wrought Iron, no money to buy.. Sigh... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Dunno why but this one is so ugly in comparison. This is ugly.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 This is ugly.. yep. but mesoleucos is just so nice. but not for a reef tank lah. too pugnacious and grow too big Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Wrought Iron, no money to buy.. Sigh... Jux buy less fishes and save the money for the wrought instead? It'll be 1k or hopefully lower, cheaper than interruptus. I believe in buying few fishes u like rather many fishes u can afford. Below pic shows a v nice contrast in colours between the 3 fishes. Maybe something i can head towards in the near future if i end up w a wrought iron instead of pauscifasciatus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted June 13, 2010 Senior Reefer Share Posted June 13, 2010 how bout this? it's beautiful too and obtainable via reborn this particular picture looks like a longnose butterfly lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digiman Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 how bout this? it's beautiful too and obtainable via reborn this particular picture looks like a longnose butterfly lol. P.Brasiliensis is nice, but i like P.Aya and P.Marcellae more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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