ambystoma82 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 with courtsey from reef central... thought of posting since zoos thrend seems bit hot lately.. mayb some of u all already had these probs but duno where to look for help... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...mp;pagenumber=1 and some remedies... http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-10/...ature/index.php UR Comments r welcome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 25 Reasons why your polyps won't expand. 1. You have a zoanthid eating worm. 2. Sundial snails. ( I've experienced this ) 3. A fish that is nipping at them, there are several well documented cases of this. ( I've experienced this ) 4. An invert doing the same. ( I've experienced this ) 5. Unstable or fluctuating parameters. 6. Large Emerald Crabs or a Sally Lightfoot. Both can and will consume, kill and cause polyp retraction. ( I've experienced this ) 7. Sea Spiders. ( I've experienced this ) 8. If shipped, the water was much too cold and you placed it directly into your tank without slowly drip acclimating them. Or, the inverse, the water was too warm. 9. Nudibranchs ( I've experienced this ) 10. Stray Voltage. ( I've experienced this ) 11. Excessively high Iodine which would prove fatal. 12. Light shock 13. Polyps that were kept in PC or VHOs and then placed mid to high level under MH's without light acclimating them. Possible burning could also occur. or Polyps that were in maybe dual 175 SE Mh and then placed mid to high under 400 watt DE MH, will cause possible burning or a delayed expansion. 14. Other stinging corals. 15. Chemical warfare. 16. Overpowering current. ( I've experienced this ) 17. Excessive collection of sediment. See post 1, 6 and 7 in the link below. http://www.michiganreefers.com/foru...highlight=Mucho 18. Nuisance algae around the polyps which will irritate them and prevent them from expanding. ( I've experienced this ) 19. Temperamental, yes, they are, there may be nothing at all wrong, that simply don’t want to expand for that day. 20. Fungus 21. Bacterial infection. ( I've experienced this ) 22. White lesions also referred to as Zoa Pox. ( I've experienced this ) 23. Amphipods, which I have only witnessed eating sick, dead, dying, decaying polyps. Doesn’t mean they won’t eat perfectly healthy ones, I just haven’t witnessed it, some have. 24. Extreme hypo or hyper salinity 25. And the final reason may not be any of the reasons above. Why? Periodically, polyps will retract from days to 10 to 14 days, during which they will clean themselves externally. Then without any advanced notice, they will unfold like a flower or a summer’s morning. I'm sure there are many more. If you have witnessed anything that you know for sure is a contributor to this list, please add it. Hopefully this thread can become a springboard for some discussion on this topic. Mucho Reef PS. There are proactive measures that one can take to prevent or greatly reduce your chances of experiencing the above. Most notably... 1. Dipping 2. Close inspection 3. Quarantine your new purchases 4. Educating yourself on what to look for and recognize. I think a lack of knowledge is the one major contributors to most unfortunate experiences in reefing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted January 19, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted January 19, 2009 with courtsey from reef central...thought of posting since zoos thrend seems bit hot lately.. mayb some of u all already had these probs but duno where to look for help... http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthre...mp;pagenumber=1 and some remedies... http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-10/...ature/index.php UR Comments r welcome... More like 25 reasons not to buy zoos for me...haha...they just cannot make it in my tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted January 19, 2009 Senior Reefer Share Posted January 19, 2009 Same. i cannot keep zoos. dunno why. Can keep starpolyp, clove polyp, mushroom, hammer, but cannot keep zoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Thexder Posted January 19, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted January 19, 2009 I had tried clove, starpolyps, moon coral and hammer before... somehow these easy corals didn't last long in my care. I have other corals like rics, prata, cup, zoas, mushies which are doing ok. Mushrooms spreading like weeds Previously I used tapwater to mix salt and zoas all melted in my tank. Now using NSW and its ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 waaa i didnt expect i post liao u all to b more demoralise leh.. oh dear... u all must read e remedies properly lahz.. mayb u all dun reali hv e passion for zoos thts y u all easily give up.. but do experiment properly cus every chance is a life in ur hands.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 although i plede my allegience to my rhodatics.. i shall post more pics of zoos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 some more guide here to ur zoos more detailed.. http://www.thesea.org/zoanthids/blue_zoanthids.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 bro nuclear can share ur experience here also.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 20, 2009 Author Share Posted January 20, 2009 found a gem here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 another gd source of infomation.. http://www.reefchat.org/Library/Articles/t...-Zoanthids.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member TayHongSiang Posted January 21, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted January 21, 2009 another gd source of infomation.. http://www.reefchat.org/Library/Articles/t...-Zoanthids.aspx Dun know leh brother....last time my zoas will just shrink, very demoralising. So i dare not keep liao, although i saw a lot at LPS. Like more lehcheh than women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 then go for e cheapest one n try got ah beng ones hv nice colours n real cheap lahz.. i mean u can post pics of ur probs i m sure e reefers here will b more than happy to tackle if there is a new prob.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Thexder Posted January 21, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted January 21, 2009 CF sells zoas quite cheap also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted January 21, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted January 21, 2009 if ur water parameters are rite , u can just acclimate and then drop ur zoas in, should open by the next day, i prefer to drop after lights off thou so far all my zoas no problem Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 CF sells zoas quite cheap also. sorry bro i only go east,go west mati leh so far.. i actually nv been to cf b4.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 here is e pics of some irritators n disease u might hv come across... keeping zoos is so much easier if i hv seem this website.. http://www.zoaid.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=384 the pics r clear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 some inspiration for u all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted January 22, 2009 Senior Reefer Share Posted January 22, 2009 some inspiration for u all.. wa cheese pie! the one on the left so nice sia. like flower!!!!!!!!! Bro u never go CF before? wa... miss out alot there the livestock, alot sia. huge variety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted January 22, 2009 Senior Reefer Share Posted January 22, 2009 they sell alot of sharks also lol. reef shark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Reefer yikai Posted January 22, 2009 Senior Reefer Share Posted January 22, 2009 btwu keep alot of zoos ah? like sis ming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambystoma82 Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 they sell alot of sharks also lol. reef shark erm.. what to do with e sharks arh? actually they very sad one lehz no much space to swim for them... mainly for export i tink.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kimwailee Posted January 23, 2009 SRC Member Share Posted January 23, 2009 erm.. what to do with e sharks arh?actually they very sad one lehz no much space to swim for them... mainly for export i tink.... Hi Bro,,, here is my collection... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Senior Reefer yikai Posted January 24, 2009 Senior Reefer Share Posted January 24, 2009 wa... ahlee....so nice sia ur tank...make me jealous only. u wan make me eat vinegar ah lol. chi cu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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