surferguy1978 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Share Posted May 9, 2006 barnacle: then how u grow bateria? i know u can drop those bateria pills but read in this forum tat it might not be reliable. wat other methods? add in more live rock? but then i think tat adding in more live rock again will kill the existing fishes in the tank... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surferguy1978 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Share Posted May 9, 2006 Bro the fact is you did not go thru ANN cycle properly, now I suggest you buy fritz #9 nitrifying bacteria pour 1/4 bottle in and let it cycle for another 2 weeks and do not add anything else. my 0.02ct hi tanga, i definitely will not add in any more fishes. it sad to see my fishes die... will pouring in the nitrifying bateria causes my cleaner shrimp to die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member barnacle Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 then how u grow bateria? tanga has answered your Q, if you want to speed up the process. or else just wait 1 or 2 month. Quote My Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanga Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 Your shrimp won't die if it have survive this far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Elune Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 die in 3 days? i got a noob qns : when u say u mix tap water with salt, then measure with the floating hydrometer.... erm... tap water is wrong... secondly... salt issue... wat salt u used? marine salt or kitchen salt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 erm... tap water is wrong... secondly... salt issue... wat salt u used? marine salt or kitchen salt? Please leh.. dun insult this bro's mentality Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Qxnviolet Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 Please leh.. dun insult this bro's mentality Whats wrong with using tap water may i know? Quote My Newbie Tank Thread My Blog All pics taken with CanoN!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanga Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 Whats wrong with using tap water may i know? I wonder why this guy still around he have been causing trouble in quite a number of thread, why is he not been dealt with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 I wonder why this guy still around he have been causing trouble in quite a number of thread, why is he not been dealt with huh.. who? u referring to me or Elune? Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Qxnviolet Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 huh.. who? u referring to me or Elune? I don't think hes referring to you bro...chill... Quote My Newbie Tank Thread My Blog All pics taken with CanoN!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 haa. i've been out of this forum for too long to noe what's that guy have been doing Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surferguy1978 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Share Posted May 9, 2006 I agree with barnacle.. 1 week is way too short a cycling period. If you do your readings, most of them would suggest 6-8 weeks of cycling period. I am surprised your clowns died before your cleaner shrimps as cleaners are more sensitive to spikes in your tank. actually not really true leh... i think that cleaner shrimps are like commando. my friend cleaner shrimp have been around with him since he start up his nano tank. in the process, about 5 to 6 fishes die in his nano tank within the space of about 2 mths plus but this cleaner shrimp survive throughout this ordeal and it had grow bigger... cleaner shrimp gd to keep. at least my cleaner shrimp now is eating fine now. hope tat nothing happen to this little fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andylee Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 cleaner shrimp if they dun die within first few days.. they most prob they'll survive long liao.. but take care cos they sensitive to big fluctuations in water parameters Quote Project R.E. Main Tank: 48" x 18" x 24" 12mm with external overflow piping Sump Tank: 28" x 14.5" x 12" (3 compartments) Lightings: T5 HO - Hopar 3* 39w + ATI 2* 54w Skimmer: Skimz Bullet Beckett Chiller: Resun CL-650 (28 - 29 °C) Wavemakers: 2* Seio M620 + 1* Hydor K2 (7100 litre / hr) Fluidized Reactor: Skimz FR (currently empty) Pumps: 1x Rio 32HF (Skimmer), 1x Rio 20HF (Return & Chiller) Filtration: more than 80kg LRs, chaeto Water Circulation: ~ 4000 litre / hr Future Plans: additional wavemaker, DIY algae scrubber, DIY overflow box Previously: Project R : 36" x 12" x 24" 10mm reef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Bob Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 Surferguy, I suggest that you do more reading & research before starting this hobby. Maybe check out some books in library. Honestly speaking,nano tank is not suitable for starter.Only very experience reefer (not all,only handful) can succeed. Its better to restart in bigger tank which it is easier, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surferguy1978 Posted May 9, 2006 Author Share Posted May 9, 2006 Surferguy, I suggest that you do more reading & research before starting this hobby. Maybe check out some books in library. Honestly speaking,nano tank is not suitable for starter.Only very experience reefer (not all,only handful) can succeed. Its better to restart in bigger tank which it is easier, i agree with u. initially i tot of starting with 3ft setup but due to space constraint, decided to start off with 1ft first and in the future upgrade to 2ft tank. read in the nano section tat lotsa people succeed with their nano tank and some are begineer. tat y willing to try it n have set myself the limit of keeping 3 live stock in the tank only. now i'm gonna to let my tank run as it is now for maybe up to a mth and see how things goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member shoelevy Posted May 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 9, 2006 becos of the inadequate cycling, from now on u must stock up slow at most 2 fishes a week in my opinion or else u gonna get bad repercusions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Qxnviolet Posted May 10, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2006 Hrmz, your water parameters seems pretty decent to me though, but yeah, let the tank run for a while before you add new LS. Do some testing after a week or two, if your water parameters are stable, can try some hardy corals like zoos first. Some reefers fill their tank with inverts before LS. Good luck and welcome to the unpredictable world of reefing!~ Quote My Newbie Tank Thread My Blog All pics taken with CanoN!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surferguy1978 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Hrmz, your water parameters seems pretty decent to me though, but yeah, let the tank run for a while before you add new LS. Do some testing after a week or two, if your water parameters are stable, can try some hardy corals like zoos first. Some reefers fill their tank with inverts before LS. Good luck and welcome to the unpredictable world of reefing!~ i plan to get some star polyps or mushrooms in probably a mth time and see whether it is successful. if they grow fine in it, will maybe trying adding 1 or 2 clownfish into the tank again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Qxnviolet Posted May 10, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2006 Okay...good luck and all the best!~ Quote My Newbie Tank Thread My Blog All pics taken with CanoN!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Elune Posted May 11, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 11, 2006 I wonder why this guy still around he have been causing trouble in quite a number of thread, why is he not been dealt with Tanga: care to elaborate on how I should be dealt with? Qxnviolet: even barnacle mentions using RO/DI water, not direct tap water. so when surferguy mentions he mixed tap water with salt, am I not correct to say that using tap water is wrong (technically)? Andylee: i m surprise you returned, after disappearing for a period. well, welcome back. Not to insult surferguys's mentality, but I do not rule out the possibility that newbies might use kitchen salt (its salt anyways) to mix water. In addition to him mentioning that he mix with tap water, this further heightens such possibility. I have friends who have bought clown fishes home (out of fun) to keep in nano tanks (during the "Finding Nemo season), and mixed direct tap water with just a couple spoonfuls of salt (yes, kitchen salt) without hydrometer. and yes, the fishes die shortly after. That is why i never rule out such possibilities. Since surferguy did not, then so be it, move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Qxnviolet Posted May 11, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted May 11, 2006 haha....peace. IMO, there absolutely nothing wrong with using tap water. And using tap water certainly isn't the cause of the death of any fishes....i've been using tap water ever since i've started and apart from abit of algae, nothing in my tank seems worse off from it. Anyway, just my own opinion.... Quote My Newbie Tank Thread My Blog All pics taken with CanoN!~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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