SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 29, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 hey i put the pipings i made into used today. it was unable to displace enough water from the tank into my sump there was only a small drizzle of water coming out. anyone can help me solve this problem ? btw i cant take the pipings out i will have to empty my tank move the tank out 4 inches or more to get it out ... the diameter of the pipings i am using is 25mm there is the pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 29, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 btw i didnt fill water to any other parts of the pipings .. i juz pour water in while the ball valve is closed though the opening where the end-cap is ... then when i turn the ball valve ... after a big splash of water only a small stream of water come out .. far too little, my sump tank run dry soon after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cherietung Posted November 29, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 Your pipe on the T-joint leading to the air is a bit short and is there any ventilation at the top? The length should be slightly longer than the 1st overflow tube. And if you want bigger flow, the T-joint should be moved lower down to give higher water pressure. Check and see if it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 29, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 there is cap on the top. i thought this system works like a toliet bowl ? sorry for my crudness .. so as long as the entire portion of pipings juz before the T joint is filled, the deplacment rate of the water would be the same as the rate of the water coming in ? correct me if i am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 29, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 wat i think is there is air trapped at the top (labelled in blue) so there have to be sufficient water pressure from the bottom to compress the air in that portion for the water to flow through. the pipes are already placed in the tank the water in the column (the one that prevent the flooding of the sump doesnt seem to lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 29, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 anyone has a solution ? i am quite desperate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldust Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 your T-joint portion is too high, thus causing a insufficient downward siphon suction. Try to move your T-joint close to the bottom U section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 29, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 29, 2006 is there anything else i can change besides the T joint ? cause i cant remove the pipings from the tank.. i have to saw part of it out to get them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member rockfish Posted November 30, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted November 30, 2006 Have u tried ###### the air out instead of pouring water in ..? Do the same thing, like closing the the ball valve. Then suck the air out from the top( where u used to pour water in). Then cover the top, and open the valve.. then fast flowing water can get rid of some air left in the bend.. after a short while.. open the top to let it regulate itself.. Hope this will help.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 30, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 30, 2006 hmm... i wil try that later thanks for the input. if it works it would save me alot of trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 30, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 30, 2006 it doesnt work bro .... for some reasoin ... i drank a couple of mouth of sea water too ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member rockfish Posted November 30, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hey bro, another simple modification u can do. insert an air-tube as shown in the pic below before u put back the surface skimmer. then u try to suck air out from the airtube. the rest of the procedure will be the same.. This should work liao .. so far this is the best mod i did for my overflow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member rockfish Posted November 30, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted November 30, 2006 oh yah!.. make sure u sercure the airtube properly.. then after the water start flowing.. u can leave the air tube in there, for future use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted November 30, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 30, 2006 thanks bro. i already did the modifications make the T joint nearer and stuff ... still in the process of sticking the picpes back... troublesome stuff.. i will get some air tubes 2moro hope is works thanks bro appreciate the help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member searching4dan Posted December 5, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted December 5, 2006 bro i had ur same problem last time.. adjusting this and that.. then end up with the still small flowrate invest a bit $$$, get a 2nd hand i-box from reefers.. thats wat i do .. now no worries abt the flow.. oso no worries that it will stop.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted December 5, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 5, 2006 haha nvm i will make another one and test again. i think the diameter of the pipe i used was too wide. will try again with a smaller diameter pipe. if it still doesnt work then i will try with other design. getting a i box will be the last option i guess cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member searching4dan Posted December 5, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted December 5, 2006 25mm is fine.. using smaller tubes will oni produce smaller out flow.. cuz i was using tubes that are smaller than 25mm.. but juz cant remember wat size i used.. the output is damn small .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted December 5, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 5, 2006 problematic stuff .. anyone here has a working overflow pipe that works ? can share the dimensions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldust Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 attached is a picture of my DIY overflow pipe. The dimensions is basically 1ft / 1.5ft (cannot remember which) , largely depending on the depth of your tank. 25mm pipe size is good as I feel smaller pipe size, the flow is too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted December 5, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 5, 2006 hmm... ok to kick start.. i will have to close my ball valve and fill the pipw with water through the pipe connected to the T joint till it full and release the ball valve right ? it will kick start the water flow ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member colinsoon Posted December 7, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted December 7, 2006 my advice is to push the joint as far down as possible, to get maximum flow rate. my 25mm pipe can sustain my 4000L pump, and i think its a rather remarkable thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member colinsoon Posted December 7, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted December 7, 2006 i shortened the joints at some point too, so they look much neater and more compact... a close up look.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted December 7, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 7, 2006 thanks for the advice bro. will be getting some more pipes to play around. hope it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Skipper32 Posted December 8, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted December 8, 2006 i changed my previous pipeto a smaller dia n able to get fatser flow at a lower noise level...but i have to say..u T joint is a bit too high...u might want to look at those tested models on the DIY section for more reference...happy diy Quote Henry Tan Sembawang 3x1.5x1.5 2.5x1x1.5 LS 1xfire clown/ 1xyellow boxer 1xpercular/ 1xcoral beauty 1xboxer/ 2xfire shrimps 1xcoral beauty/ 2xfalse clowns 2xhawk fish/ 1xane crab 1xyellow tail damsel/ 2xcleaners 3xturbo snails 2xhermits 1xtomato clown Set up..... Sump - Done DIY Cabinet - Done DIY Overflow Pipe - Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member big_ben102000 Posted December 8, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted December 8, 2006 i am gonna change to a 4000 - 4500L/hr pumkp very soon. the protein layer is also building up pretty fast on the surface. since bro colinsoon's design work i will follow his and look up for more tested designs online. if it still doesnt work.. i will stick to my previous method. pumping water in and out using powerheads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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