SRC Member dachkie Posted June 5, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 5, 2008 hi got a question to ask, i am in the process of upgrading my tank to a 5ft, my current tank has been running for 4 months with livestocks and coralline algae are already growing, fully cycled but if i wanna transfer the rocks and lifestocks to the new tank, do i need to go tru the cycling period slowly? currently the new tank has a 1 inch sand bed and no rocks at the moment, cycling on water out of my old tank during water changes for a week already i plan to cycle the sand 1st, so when the sand has been fully cycled, can i just transfer everything over or what should i do , btw i wont be reusing the current tank's water, will be using fresh mix. recommendations appreciated Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member MbmC Posted June 5, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 5, 2008 As your new tank is larger than the old, whatever bacteria u have for biological filtration in your old tank will not be enough to support the bioload in the new tank. So yes, to a certain extent you have to 'cycle' the new tank, to allow the bacterial population to grow large enough. It's more of being patient. The same live rocks/biological filtration should be able to support the same bioload from the old tank, never mind the larger volume of water. But don't leave the live rocks out of water for too long, till too much die off occurs and the live rocks become dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member piero Posted June 6, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 6, 2008 Probably need to add more rocks for the bigger tank? I did the same thing when I moved house. Rocks were like 5 years old but I still let it cycle for 1 month. Water condition tend to be more stable that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted June 6, 2008 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 6, 2008 i will be using lesser rocks infact for this new 5ft, my current 3.5 x 2 x 2.5 is stack like 22 mountains with a valley , i think there are like almost 150kg rocks inside, but the new 5 x 2.5 x 2 is gonna be a 3sided view, with the rocks in the centre of the tank, easier to clean the glass as well and more circulation, trying to do a close circuit piping work, i will be only choosing the best shape rocks from my current setup to go into the new tank and maybe get some more new rocks if needed, ok thanks guys at least i know that its safer to cycle , as i already got $500 - $700 worth of corals and livestocks, later do a mistake and all up lorry, i will surely decomm for my 4th time lol Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ah-lim Posted June 6, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 6, 2008 too much rocks aren't a good thing. Less is more, sometimes. left fallow for a month, will be okay, thats wat i did when i shift my 2ft to 3 ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted June 6, 2008 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 6, 2008 too much rocks aren't a good thing. Less is more, sometimes. left fallow for a month, will be okay, thats wat i did when i shift my 2ft to 3 ft. ya thats what i tot , but i will be making it up with a super custom 3.5ft by 2 ft acrylic sump with 7 compartments (super kiasu) so i can put lots of mechanical filtration in the 1st 2 compartments plus uv then follow by biological filtration and refugium with 6inch dsb and over skimming with a rated for 2800l skimmer, although i will only be mainly keeping LPS with a little mushies and sps. just love to have the crystal clear water look Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tagie_tag Posted June 6, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 6, 2008 hi.. wat the bioload in the tank mean .pls explain.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member subxero Posted June 7, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 7, 2008 bioload refers to your livestocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tagie_tag Posted June 7, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 7, 2008 ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member MbmC Posted June 7, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 7, 2008 ya thats what i tot , but i will be making it up with a super custom 3.5ft by 2 ft acrylic sump with 7 compartments (super kiasu) so i can put lots of mechanical filtration in the 1st 2 compartments plus uv then follow by biological filtration and refugium with 6inch dsb and over skimming with a rated for 2800l skimmer, although i will only be mainly keeping LPS with a little mushies and sps. just love to have the crystal clear water look Throw the old LRs you don't need in your main tank into your sump Still can make use of the bacteria then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted June 8, 2008 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 8, 2008 Throw the old LRs you don't need in your main tank into your sump Still can make use of the bacteria then will be using bioballs instead but placed at a compartment where water is already very mechanical filtered clean , so the ball wont trap detritus n become n03 factory Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member piero Posted June 9, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 9, 2008 will be using bioballs instead but placed at a compartment where water is already very mechanical filtered clean , so the ball wont trap detritus n become n03 factory Think no need for those bio balls... Just use a good skimmer to skim out the wates. I used to have biohome.... Surface area supposed to as big as basketball court for each KG added and I used 5kg of that expensive filter media and it never beat a good skimmer. Have since removed it as I see no use for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted June 10, 2008 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 10, 2008 Think no need for those bio balls... Just use a good skimmer to skim out the wates. I used to have biohome.... Surface area supposed to as big as basketball court for each KG added and I used 5kg of that expensive filter media and it never beat a good skimmer. Have since removed it as I see no use for it. well since i have the compartments for it , no harm adding more surface area for bacterials, coz i will be having lesser lr in the tank due to 3 sided viewing Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member piero Posted June 11, 2008 SRC Member Share Posted June 11, 2008 Can try and let us know the results then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted June 13, 2008 Author SRC Member Share Posted June 13, 2008 finally tomorow i will go and collect my new sump and irwana will deliver the nsw, so i can slowly do my aquascape using lr from my current tank as base before going furthr Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsnph Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 May I ask why you don't want to use your current water for your new tank ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter ReDDeviLs Posted August 10, 2008 SRC Supporter Share Posted August 10, 2008 no point using bvack old water for new tank.. new water will be better. Quote [ ] [ ] Reef Reefing Reefed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsnph Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 no point using bvack old water for new tank.. new water will be better. yeah, but using it might help re-establish the new tank faster than doing the full cycling steps again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member dachkie Posted August 10, 2008 Author SRC Member Share Posted August 10, 2008 i cant reuse when all my old tank water has flooded to downstairs lol Quote Mix Reef Tank: 5ft x 2.5ft x 2ft mixed reef Chiller: daikin 1hp compressor Return: Red Dragon 6.5m3 Lighting: Aqua Lumen Ocean 4ft Skimmer: Reef Octopus RO-RPS-5000-EXT w/ Bubble Blaster CR: RM 824 /milwakee PH controller Tunze TS24 with 7096 Tunze Osmolator American Pinpoint PH monitor American Pinpoint ORP Monitor with Resun Ozone RM sulphur denitrator RM FR 424 RM FR 624 TLF Phosban Reactor My old tank thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsnph Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 i cant reuse when all my old tank water has flooded to downstairs lol LOL i see. LOL :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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