SRC Member LittleBurger Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 Who like to know the views of pple who quit and those who quited n come back again. When time is a factor, is it no time to change water? I think the most tedious chore in marine is water changing. When money is a factor, is it the electricity bill is high? Why is it high is because there's a lot of gadgets? these r the only 2 factors I could think of. If dosing all those additives n strong skimmer, does it reduce the water change frequency? Do we really need to use so much gadget? Me only using a skimmer, fr(total 3 pumps), a mp40, a chiller n self DIY led light set. Dosing is manual using esv 2part. Esv mag, microlobe bacteria. I everyday go lfs must buy something. But now no more doing tat. is it when the excitement of buying n stocking no more than the interest die down? Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Bulldozer Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 - Interest Died - Financial Situation changes due priorities in life - Changes in Environment that doesn't permit one to have hobby. (eg. Used to have Tropical Tank when I was younger. Then have to stay together with my in-laws and they do not fancy Tanks at home, so I stop my hobby for quite a while till I have my new home). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member zorden Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 due to job commitment. have to travel therefore have to KIV my tank hobby. coming back to the darkside soon Quote I am just an average FR (fish reefing) writer. If you like my FRs, please upz my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbone Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own. What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree? And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef. When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful. just my 2 cents worth...make it $1. Happy reefing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member pokmingsheng Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own. What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree? And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef. When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful. just my 2 cents worth...make it $1. Happy reefing. +1 well said.. totally agree with you... Quote My Decomissioned 2ft Cube: (31st March 2011) Carpe Diem~!!! My Current 4ft X 2ft X 2ft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameshong Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 IMHO, the Cost & Time of maintaining this lovely marine hobby is the main factors that causes reefers to decom ! Quote Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. - Goethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member allantang Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 IMHO, the Cost & Time of maintaining this lovely marine hobby is the main factors that causes reefers to decom ! agree.. face the same problem when i had a bigger tank. so down size works well and I get to keep at a smaller scale with lesser time spend n cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member allantang Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 Try doing this!!! ^__________________________^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbone Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Try doing this!!! ^__________________________^ Now we are talking...See how they leave space everywhere? They have a theme. Not just a huge bunch of rocks dumped into a tank and then a ridiculously huge collection of rare frags stuck so close you don't even know where the focus point is. Then again, it is personal. Hahah....cover my ###### first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameshong Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Try doing this!!! ^__________________________^ You need at least 3x3x2 tank to have this effect :lol: ! Quote Knowing is not enough; we must apply. Willing is not enough; we must do. - Goethe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted September 26, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own. What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree? And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef. When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful. just my 2 cents worth...make it $1. Happy reefing. I feel time and money goes hand in hand. If a person dose lots of stuffs to a tank, then probably more time will be spent on "maintaining" it. so in order to reduce this "maintenance" time, automatic systems will be look into. More money pump in. I'm wondering can keeping a reef tank be "cheap". You see lots of different brands of additives in the market. Do we really need so much of these? I remembered a owner of a LFS told me just do more water change will be enough. I'm in the midst of considering to upgrade my tank to a rimless one, with thorough design, hoping to minimize the maintenance. One idea would be splitting the return line to multiple small lines and the LR will encase them to hide them. the flow from within the LR will probably keep most of the suspended particles from settling on the rock. Also trying to see if I can tap the solar power to run some of the fans. I saw the echiller from deltec and if we use solar power to power the fans in the day time. Sometimes I see the old birds decomming, n wonders why they r doing it. Is it something they realize down the rd to reefing. I read somewhere from a book from libray abt creating a portion of the reef, there are several parts of the reef which hobbyist can create but so far the author said he only sees people dumping everything into it. I think creating a reef habitat in the tank whereby u can sit down and watch the tank habitants' behaviour and see them grow will be generating sustainable interest in the long run. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted September 26, 2011 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 agree.. face the same problem when i had a bigger tank. so down size works well and I get to keep at a smaller scale with lesser time spend n cost. So what is the size u having now? mine is 36 x 20 x 24. Am thinking of 4x2.5.2 with external overflow. but am thinking should i go for 4x2.5x2 with internal overflow. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cool guy Posted September 26, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 26, 2011 Another factor people decom is tat when e tank crash... Jus imaging after 2 or 3 or more years of hard work go down e drain in jus 2 or 3days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iskay Posted September 27, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 27, 2011 Potential cause: Algae Bloom Quote "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my friend..." - Lei Siu Lung (Bruce Lee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinbone Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Potential cause: Algae Bloom lol..marine planted tank. Good for Tangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cjh Posted September 27, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted September 27, 2011 Actually i believe that once a reefer forever a reefer. Even when they decomm, they will someday find their way back. One of the reasons why people may quit this hobby is due to the lack of like minded people to discuss and involve in this hobby. This hobby requires a closely nit fraternity. You need friends who love the hobby and who get equally excited at your achievements as well as their own. What i see lacking in this hobby is communication among reefers. Pasar Malam activities not counted! Hahah. Seriously, when u start a tank thread and people don't get really excited, then it takes a marine biologist to keep up with the learning and commitment required in reef maintenance, which many of us are not. You need people who are experienced and patient to guide the new guys and the new guys must also gather a few newbies to start the hobby so as to learn and speak at the same frequency. Cause in all honesty, the 'old birds' have little patience to answer newbie questions 20times a month. Agree? And please for goodness sakes, stop having fruit racks for a reef. Be innovative and artistic in your rockscape. Learn from the japanese. Even the europeans are starting to abandon the fruit rack stacking methods. Challenge yourself to set up specimen dedicated reefs. Actually IMO, a few(maximum 10 different types or genus) large mature and colorful colonies is way nicer than being a coral collector and ending up with a rojak tank. Pay attention to symmetry and form and color distribution. It will create a deeper impact than having 200 specimens cramped into a 3footer reef. When you realize that your reefing hobby is not about collecting all the specimens in the world, the hobby gets less straining on the pockets and also more meaningful. just my 2 cents worth...make it $1. Happy reefing. totally agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oprime Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I guess money really isn't so much of a factor once you are already in it. A marine tank needs constant care and attention. Leave for a week even after giving someone detailed instructions and briefings results in some sort of damage. No one cares about your tank - only you do. You need time and patience. Thats about it. Quote AH SIANG KISS MY ARSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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