SRC Member Firestarter Posted September 7, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 7, 2014 3 days after adding the seahares, although I see them munching around, but really don't know what they are eating. Because I still see those hairy algae in their paths. Will update here again if I see them attacking the hairy algae. I'm interested to know too if sea hares eat them. Quote Sometimes the good guys gotta do bad things to make the bad guys pay. - Harvey Specter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 After so many days, I still can't be sure the seahares are eating the bryopsis or hair algae. Although these nuisance algae are visibly much lesser, I have not witnessed them clearing the algae. And I started dosing biodigest from the same day I put in the seahares, so really not sure if the reduction of nuisance algae is result of seahares or biodigest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share Posted September 13, 2014 Update on seahare - not sure if those in my tank are bryopsis, but seahares are definitely feasting on those hairy algae. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kenny1111 Posted September 14, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 14, 2014 just for info, my 2 seahares in tank is helping me cleaning almost all algae(include bryopsis) . They never eat bubble algae........ But also with saehare, almost all my snail is dead..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share Posted September 14, 2014 just for info, my 2 seahares in tank is helping me cleaning almost all algae(include bryopsis) . They never eat bubble algae........ But also with saehare, almost all my snail is dead..... Why are all your snails dead? Died of hunger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuEl Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 There are a few species of bryopsis, some may be more palatable to seahare than others. Personally mine ate the thin feather type, I've got a video of one munching off these algae from frag plugs. Different types of seahares may prefer to eat different species of bryopsis, it's an experiment. Personally I observe that bryopsis do not like high salinity and low nutrient water. I keep my salinity at 1.026-1.027, nitrate 0, phosphate 0, bryopsis and valonia both find it hard to survive. Quote Always something more important than fish. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kenny1111 Posted September 16, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why are all your snails dead? Died of hunger? most likely yes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 most likely yes.... Oops... i got lots of snails... but also lots of algae to feed them. Not sure shd I be happy about this situation or not. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 There are a few species of bryopsis, some may be more palatable to seahare than others. Personally mine ate the thin feather type, I've got a video of one munching off these algae from frag plugs. Different types of seahares may prefer to eat different species of bryopsis, it's an experiment. Personally I observe that bryopsis do not like high salinity and low nutrient water. I keep my salinity at 1.026-1.027, nitrate 0, phosphate 0, bryopsis and valonia both find it hard to survive. Thanks for sharing. Fortunately, my seahares seem to be doing their job well so far. So no need to increase salinity. But though my phosphate is abt 0.03-0.05ppm and nitrate is undetectable, algae is still growing. Most likely my liverocks are leeching nutrients. Looks like I am facing a long battle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 It appears my intensive water change regime has yielded some positive results after a month. My surviving frags are stabilising and... This piece started to show great polyps extension and continued its encrusting. The stn on the tips of this piece stopped and started to encrust. Thanks a lot to all the bros here for sharing with me all the tips and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 16, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 16, 2014 Good job there on the twice weekly wc. I am very sure you will be a successful sps reefer with such strong determination. Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Good job there on the twice weekly wc. I am very sure you will be a successful sps reefer with such strong determination. Cheers, James Thanks for the encouragement. It is indeed not easy to juggle the regime with family and work commitments. In fact, it is sibeh siong ar! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 Alternatively, you may want to slowly replace one a time your po4 rich live rocks with "bleached/vinegar soaked/flushed with distilled water "clean dead rocks with zero po4" to help control the algaes bloom or nutrients leech. Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Alternatively, you may want to slowly replace one a time your po4 rich live rocks with "bleached/vinegar soaked/flushed with distilled water "clean dead rocks with zero po4" to help control the algaes bloom or nutrients leech. Cheers, James Hmmm... replacing the bottom rocks will be difficult. Iwarna did a good job in rockscaping without using any glue or epoxy. Tat means the rocks are leaning against one another. Will be tricky for me to remove one without affecting the adjacent rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 Ya its not going to be easy. But its an option. Or to speed things up maybe you can use more carbon to absorb the nutrients. Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Ya its not going to be easy. But its an option. Or to speed things up maybe you can use more carbon to absorb the nutrients. Cheers, James Use more carbon? That sounds like a more doable option for me. Is there any negative side effects for putting too much carbon? I am using rowa carbon currently and putting about 100g (agaration) in a filter bag and throw into sump area with high flow. And I change once a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hanafi_weeseng Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 Wow twice per week wc!Bro you will confirm see improvement soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 I think he already saw improvement Rowaphos plus those cheap carbon will do. Change weekly for the carbon and monthly for rowaphos. What other bio filtration do you have? Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Wow twice per week wc!Bro you will confirm see improvement soon.Thanks, bro! Yeah, fortunately, I am seeing some improvement. Otherwise, I don't think I can persevere for so long. Hahaha... honestly, I almost wanted to give up at one point. But luckily got some nice reefersl friends encouraging and pushing me along as well as the advice I get from this thread so far. Am really very appreciative to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 I think he already saw improvement Rowaphos plus those cheap carbon will do. Change weekly for the carbon and monthly for rowaphos. What other bio filtration do you have? Cheers, James Change weekly for carbon? Rowa carbon consider cheap carbon? Or is it too strong? Just rowaphos and carbon, and a refugium with chaetos. Sorry, I don't really know what are considered biofiltration. But those above are what I have, apart from skimmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 You can use a cheaper carbon but replace more regularly. Increase your surface area for beneficial bacteria to host will help break down those nutrients. Run red led lights on cheato n harvest them regularly. Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 You can use a cheaper carbon but replace more regularly. Increase your surface area for beneficial bacteria to host will help break down those nutrients. Run red led lights on cheato n harvest them regularly. Cheers, James I am already running red led for chaetos and harvesting every 2 weeks. Don't really understand the part on increasing surface area for beneficial bacteria. What surface area are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 Surface area meaning sand, bioring, biomedia like siporax or bacteria king or even crush coral chips, wool......etc Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hideaki Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Surface area meaning sand, bioring, biomedia like siporax or bacteria king or even crush coral chips, wool......etc Cheers, James Oh okok... i don't have any of these, except for the sand bed in main tank and a layer of wool to trap detritus from my downpipe. Hmmm.... ok, I shall add some of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted September 17, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yup, find a clean compartment to fill up more bacteria housing. Your tank will be more stable and you can feed coral n fishes more. Do you dose any bacteria? Cheers, James Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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