shawnlim Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 new tank.. cycle for 2 weeks+ liao with fresh caribsea aragonite live sand and dry rocks.. even buy prodbio start and add in after first week, not working at all i use shrimp method for 3 days and daily feed but ammonia still stuck 2 ppm and not cycling, worry is live sand not handled properly then dead.. any bros can help me abit Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member R0B Posted March 23, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted March 23, 2020 Slightly confused. You have been cycling for two weeks but added shrimp just three days ago? If so chillax and wait it out. You have ammonia in the tank so the ammonia oxygenating bacteria will start to do their thing. Classic cycles can take a long time. To help speed up the process lower the salinity slightly 1.020 and let the water get slightly warmer 82 this will give the bacteria a fighting chance. You mentioned you used live sand and Prodibio Start... you mean 'Start up'? This should be good if used correctly. The issue I see with these products is that they uses heterotrophic bacteria from the get go which I have read may actually inhibit the cycle. Suggest you watch Dr Tim Hovanec's MCNA presentation on cycling a tank on YouTube. Who knew that there were loads of different types of bacteria that need to be introduced at different times!?Aquarium systems have a bacteria starter kit, which introduces different bacteria at different set times which may be an option for you and is about $15. ...Else patience. Have you tested for Nitrite? Good luck. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnlim Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 sorry if i wasnt clear, i meant shrimp cycle on the first day! and yes.. prodbio start up. thank you for the long response, i will watch the suggested video! any idea where do they sell the starter kits u were referring to? and when im testing for nitrite, what should i be looking for? 0 nitrite? Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member R0B Posted March 23, 2020 SRC Member Share Posted March 23, 2020 SAS have the brand, but whether they have in stock you would need to check. If you cannot find, another suggestion would be to pm@marineplanet he has some fritrtizyme 9 which could also work to turbo boost the cycle and his prices are very reasonable so wont break the bank. OR just wait it out (may take 30 days). With or without testing something is happening.When testing you should get an ammonia kit and a Nitrite test kit in addition to the more standard Nitrate kits. What you are watching for is a wave effect running through ammonia, nitrite and nitrate. Once you begin to see a decrease in your Ammonia (eventually to zero), followed by an increase in Nitrite followed by a reduction in Nitrite (eventually to zero) and corresponding increase in Nitrate, you know your tank is cycling. How big is your system? How big was the shrimp? Given the tank is at the right ammonia level If it is still visable get it out of the tank. It maybe that it is still releasing ammonia. You asked for rocks and sand? Does your tank have any of either of these (I think you said has sand, but does it have rocks?... just wondering if not what the bacteria is expected to live on?). Cycling is a waiting game... so Whilst you waiting and are on YouTube checking out Dr Tim, also check out BRSTV 5 Min series playlist. Is about 2hours total watching, but well worth the time. They have two episodes on cycling. Good luck. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnlim Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 okay, thank you very much for the advice kind stranger! Will take it into account and play the waiting game for the time being. my tank is 15 gals and i placed an average sized shrimp cocktail and left it in for 3 days before removing it. only half of the shrimp was left by then.I believe i have more than enough dry rock and bio media for the live sand to seed it in time to come. as its my first time doing a saltwater tank i was worried by other factors, i thought it wasnt cycling. thanks again, good luck to me i guess!Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnlim Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 anybody want exchange caribsea sand? pls pm me mine’s brand new!Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Can also take some live rock, sand and seawater to speed up. Few brands of start up bacteria available... Can go nanyang aquarium at sembawang area to get. May not use test kits..if you don't mind wsiting... During cycling... U will encounter 2 algae surge.. .... One is brown and the other green..can't remember which come first.. . Once over..yr tank is ready. Using dosing.. Is to speed up and get the tank ready in few days... Cycling may take weeks... 1 Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnlim Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 ok, thank you! those have been done already actually.. but still ammonia stalled, finally realised the reason! nitrites were too high and stalling the cycle.. Sent from Singapore Reef Club mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlad888 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Pm me. I have sand to let go and rocks. Very very affordable price.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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