SRC Member surfedelic Posted July 12, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 12, 2004 Des, Your chiller sounds abit smallish for your tank Titan 1500 can only support up to 250 gal. Does it run all the time or break in intervals during summer ? Glad to hear there is some success stories for skimmerless tank Do you have some data on water parameters ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member vagabond Posted July 12, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 12, 2004 yah, share some more details of your seawaorld with us. also, wander how often do you change the water and how much of it? full view please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nicholasloh Posted July 12, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 12, 2004 wowie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auberon Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 zowie! Can't believe that's in a home.... Hopes someone tries this and posts his or her results.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ervine Posted July 13, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 13, 2004 5x400W... OMG!!! that's like an electric sun over ur tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desong Posted July 13, 2004 Author Share Posted July 13, 2004 Surfedelic - the chiller can handle between 180g (maintain upto 5.5C) to 360g (upto 2.5C). It's on for about 10 hours, basically almost the entire time the lights are on, no surprise there! As for water parameters, I'll have to confess I don't test as often as I should have. The following data was prepared for a book about three months ago:- Specific gravity: 1.023-1.025 pH: 8.1-8.2 Alkalinity: 2.0 meq/l Calcium: 320-360ppm Nitrate: Undetectable Phosphate: Undetectable Vagabond - the tank receives between 5-30% every 4-6 weeks, depending on work load/schedule. Auberon - the system isn't located in my home, but in a boardroom at work. Ervin - it really isn't a lot of light when you have 15 sq/ft and over 3ft of water to punch through. I don't blame you, as originally when I first set it up, I too thought 1 x 400w was a lot of light, never mine 5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Eric Posted July 14, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 14, 2004 Surfedelic - the chiller can handle between 180g (maintain upto 5.5C) to 360g (upto 2.5C). It's on for about 10 hours, basically almost the entire time the lights are on, no surprise there! As for water parameters, I'll have to confess I don't test as often as I should have. The following data was prepared for a book about three months ago:- Specific gravity: 1.023-1.025 pH: 8.1-8.2 Alkalinity: 2.0 meq/l Calcium: 320-360ppm Nitrate: Undetectable Phosphate: Undetectable Vagabond - the tank receives between 5-30% every 4-6 weeks, depending on work load/schedule. Auberon - the system isn't located in my home, but in a boardroom at work. Ervin - it really isn't a lot of light when you have 15 sq/ft and over 3ft of water to punch through. I don't blame you, as originally when I first set it up, I too thought 1 x 400w was a lot of light, never mine 5! Desong, what abt the lighting specs (how much kelvin?) and photoperiod? Is the tank having DSB? Calcium and Alkalinity so low also can ar? Alamak, now you confuse me.......do I really need a CR....hehe? Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auberon Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Oooo.. boardroom. okay. Still amazing anyway. Is the system connectec to any FR. Starting a new tank. Hopefully soon. So might try this out. Anything to watch out for during the early stages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [JS] Posted July 15, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 15, 2004 how do we noe tat we going to use how many kg of Miracle Mud? does it come with a folmua? Quote OuR LoVe StOrY SiTe->http://ohjs83.multiply.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alentino Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 that is goin to cost a bomb Quote "Less technology, more biology" --- John Tullock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desong Posted July 18, 2004 Author Share Posted July 18, 2004 Dood - you're right, but I do have sand - I just prefer the look plus I think 'ecologically' is more complete. As for the bio-balls, I use coarse & static mats and they do get washed from time to time with cold (chlorinated) tap water. Eric - 4 x 14K & 1 x 20K, for about 10 hrs per day. No DSB. Despite my previous post, you should strive to achive 420ppm of Ca2+ and 3 meq/l of alkalinity. There's a calcium reactor but it isn't coping with the uptake. FWIW, I've kept corals at lower levels BUT I don't recommend it, unless you're really up on bio-chemical processes... (not in anyway suggesting that you don't!) Auberon - what's 'FR'?? JS - you should aim for about 5kg per 50gal. Kkoil2000 - see above for lighting. Yes I know it's hard to believe, but definately no skimming here! Alentino - are u referring to the cost of using the MMud? The mud + lighting are about 60% of an appropriately sized skimmer, roughly speaking. Here are a couple of full tank shots as promised - one from the side 1m x 1m while another from the front 1.5mx 1m. Des Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member d00d Posted July 21, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 21, 2004 Thanks for da reply, desong! Really cool to see such a tank being possible. Your colourful Anthias are all over too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Batman Posted July 21, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 21, 2004 Impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member freddychin Posted July 22, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 22, 2004 I'm more than happy to answer any question you may have... Lighting consists of 5 x 400w HQI & 4 x fluorescents. Des Des, Care to share which brand and how many K(kelvin) MH light you using ? and HQI is a DE (Double End) or SE (Single End) MH ? Could you share with us a photo of your tank sump ? thx regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chselee Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Des, Impressive! Btw, How about the water circulation? Any special equipments use? Type of dietary for the LS ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuan Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Des, Very nice set up! How do you control algae in the main tank? What I don't follow is without skimming, you have nutrients in the water column everywhere, so algae should grow everywhere where there is light. So why wouldnt algae grow in the main tank as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desong Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 Chselee - I have a Tunze Stream (the smallest, can't remember model no.), and 2 Sequence 750 for water movement and recirculation through sump. The fishes are fed with a mixture of quality flakes, high protein pellets and several varieties of frozen diets. Feddy - see my previous post for sump photos + Kelvin readings. I'm using a mixture of Radium & Arcadia SE bulbs at the moment. Do they make 400w DE? I've not come across any yet... what's the difference? Tuan - by algae I'm assuming you mean nuisance/hair algae. We do have fine dusting of green alga on the glass/walls and then there’s the blue-green, although technically not an algae. Controls are mainly via herbivores: tangs, snails & starfishes (Asterina sp.). In a mature & balanced system you shouldn’t get a great deal of measurable N & P, with or without skimming. In contrast to popular believe, IMO, the Miracle Mud System doesn’t actually simply ‘filters’ the water, although the macro algae culture does play an important role in nutrient export, especially in the early stages when the tank is maturing. Rather, it ‘encourages’ nutrient/food uptake through facilitating the presence/growth of greater number of animals & plants (than heavily skimmed systems) – essentially ‘forces’ all inhabitants to try and form a natural balance or greater level of nutrient cycling. It is not possible to achieve this entirely in the limitations of an aquarium, hence it still necessitate water changes, calcium additions etc. etc. I find it difficult to cover large areas with regards to the various microbial bio-chemical processes in the confines of a forum as most are not so clean-cut and many are interlinked. I’m happy to continue answering brief spec related questions here and if anyone is really into the more in-depth stuff, I suggest you contact EcoSystem Inc. in US or phone me if you can bear the phone bill! Des Hydnophora exesa left, Montipora capricornis (?) 04-07-2004 07-07-2004 09-07-2004 23-0702004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Chris Posted July 24, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 24, 2004 Picture tells a thousand words. It's amazing the time taken for the war to end. Do you always let nature take its course or would you try to relocate corals to avoid the war? I'm facing the same problem. My encrusting brown monti and (more precious) purple monti came into contact while expanding....sadly the purple one is losing. Quote I think (marine) therefore I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member danano Posted July 24, 2004 SRC Member Share Posted July 24, 2004 Very nice tank Des. That lethal hydno looks like it's just going to keep growing and growing, killing everything in its path. Do you have plans to move, remove or frag it? It look encrusted on LR though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alentino Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 a stunning biotope that you have created Desong. but i've always wondered about this question, is skimming that unnatural since it happens in nature too? i myself have seen foamy mucks being washed ashore by pounding wave actions Quote "Less technology, more biology" --- John Tullock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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