SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 Personnally, i notice some differences after the running of the additional skimmer (not that its psychological), water gets clearer and the fishes appears happier, "floating" effect of fishes within the body of water if you know what i mean... Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ancelot Posted January 3, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi Melyvn, How big is your sump? because there have been discussions that having two skimmers running simultaneously is not at all a bad thing but the problem is that one of the skimmers' performance might be undermined. How true is that i do not know but thats what i read abt in here? maybe ask roidan? i go help you find the threads..=) Happy Reefing~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 Thanks Ancelot....would appreciate your checking up. Just some observations i made...my in-sump skimmer churns out about the same quants of skimmate for 1 day (from 02/01/05 sunday to 03/01/05 today) as in any other day...the little brother skims out skimmate as well and by visual comparison, the level of skimmate in the collection cup is about the same level for both skimmer. Sump size 3x1.5x1.5 Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iori_del Posted January 3, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 nice tank u got there , Mel. Is there really a different when running 2 skimmer together? The money u spend is more than 1 K on skimmer which u can a better one like shorty or Deltec, wat make u run 2 H & S? Can share with us? Quote GIve up liao!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 woah dual H&S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 ermmm.....did some personal research on my own (dun ask me on the basis)...my belief is that 3 brands of skimmer out there which is worthy for the aquarium hobby (at least for mine) in maintaining good water quality are Schuran, Grotech and H&S. I consider on the importance of the bubble size (consistancy), lotsa bubbles, energy efficiency & realibility. Why H&S? because it is good?? Why 2 H&S? because it looks better with 2 similar skimmers rather than 2 different ones. For me - i usually hope to get my money's worth in every single piece of equipment i get....(my professional trait lah) Hope i am right Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 woah dual H&S Thanks Dispar....with this config, i was thinking of putting in lotsa Dispar Anthias and lotsa Tangs...hehhehe (kidding) Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member iori_del Posted January 3, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 ermmm.....did some personal research on my own (dun ask me on the basis)...my belief is that 3 brands of skimmer out there which is worthy for the aquarium hobby (at least for mine) in maintaining good water quality are Schuran, Grotech and H&S. I consider on the importance of the bubble size (consistancy), lotsa bubbles, energy efficiency & realibility. Why H&S? because it is good?? Why 2 H&S? because it looks better with 2 similar skimmers rather than 2 different ones. For me - i usually hope to get my money's worth in every single piece of equipment i get....(my professional trait lah) Hope i am right WOh i really .. nothing to say liao, u can add a few more tang for sure... hope u can update us more abt the skim mate in a month time.. wonder if one of them will stop skimming liao Quote GIve up liao!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member sunny03 Posted January 3, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 waiting for him to tired with either one of his HnS den we can have it hahah Quote Selling big game fishing equipment. Stella 20k / 17k .. made in Japan jigging blue rose / kabuzu popping rod... pm for prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 WOh i really .. nothing to say liao, u can add a few more tang for sure... hope u can update us more abt the skim mate in a month time.. wonder if one of them will stop skimming liao My opinion is that in a close-looped system, there may never be an instance where the water entire gets skimmed, unless; 1) The water outflow from the main tank to the sump filtration goes straight into the skimmer and the cleaned water from the skimmer goes straight to the return compartment (assuming that this compartment comprises of all the skimmed water - not mixed with the uncleaned water). 2) You have very low loadings. Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Thanks Dispar....with this config, i was thinking of putting in lotsa Dispar Anthias and lotsa Tangs...hehhehe (kidding) den tang police will be here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 Right now have 5 Tangs 1) Hippo (Blue) Tang 2) Orange Shoulder Tang 3) Yellow Tang 4) Purple Tang 5) Powder Blue 6) ? ? = Naso elegans or Acanthurus achilles Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member sunny03 Posted January 3, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 AT lol wat u waiting for or get a king angel or french angel ahha Quote Selling big game fishing equipment. Stella 20k / 17k .. made in Japan jigging blue rose / kabuzu popping rod... pm for prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispar_Anthias Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Right now have 5 Tangs 1) Hippo (Blue) Tang 2) Orange Shoulder Tang 3) Yellow Tang 4) Purple Tang 5) Powder Blue 6) ? ? = Naso elegans or Acanthurus achilles haha no wonder you need 2 skimmer... with that kind of load haha i think one strong beckett also hard to fight... Eh 5 tangs... in only a 4 feet tank, isn't it abit too much.... considering the pool, the territorial behavior once the tangs become very established Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 3, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 3, 2005 So far so good...but have the intention to get the hippo tang out cos it is beginning to look like a HIPPO !!! Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 The H&Ses after 5 working days. Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 The older brother Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 The younger brother Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 Both A110-F2000 and 150-F2001 did their job in skimming the tank. Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 The skimmate were cleared this morning.... Herewith a pic of my PBT Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 And of course my Angel I sit and wait Does an angel contemplate my fate And do they know The places where we go When we're grey and old 'Cause I've been told That salvation lets their wings unfold So when I'm lying in my bed Thoughts running through my head And I feel that love is dead I'm loving angels instead Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 After cleaning out the skimmate in the morning... Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 Approximately 3 hours later Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 The skimmer takes a longer while to skim - usually about 1 hr plus for the same quants Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Melvyn Tan Posted January 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 7, 2005 Now it takes a while longer....the younger brother taken at the same time, 3hours after clearing out the skimmate... Quote My Beautiful ANGEL - Matsushima Nanako Equipment List for 4x2x2 Tank & 3x1.5x1.5 Sump Hagen 802 x 2, Tunze 6060, Arcadia T5 (54W x 8), Eheim 1260 (return) Eheim 1250 (Chiller), Aquabee 300 x 2 (Feed) H&S 150-F2001 (850l Skimmer), H&S A110-F2000 (400l Skimmer), H&S 110-F1000 (1000l Sulphur/Nitrate Filter), H&S 150-F2000IA (800l Calcium Reactor) Coralife 3X (UV Steriliser), I-Aquatic IF 312 (Fluidised Reactor), Kent Kalk Delivery, Resun CL650, Pinpoint ORP & PH Meters & Wireless Thermometer 4x2x2 Tank Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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