SRC Member May&Bruce Posted November 6, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2005 Do any reefers out there use a Jaubert plenum system in their tanks? I have set up one for my 5 foot reef tank and would like to share ideas benefits, etc., with pthers. Quote Real reefs don't have glass bottoms....(...think about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelfish Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 i had plenum in my 4', but seems not working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member May&Bruce Posted November 6, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2005 angelfish...how long was it up and running and why do you think it is not working? NO3 too high? Quote Real reefs don't have glass bottoms....(...think about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Actually anyone ever wonder why most Public Aquariums are still using Plenums? And why FAMA magazine still have one dedicated section called Sand Mail by Bob Goeman? I believe the natural filtration methods still holds water! Just that it may not be the flavour at this moment in Singapore. Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tigger Posted November 6, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2005 trend in sgp now is bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 trend in sgp now is bb That's correct bro! But I believe most that went BB are those that embraces Zeovit as well and they have the results to show. What worries me are those that go BB without Zeovit. I dunno but I from my limited knowledge BB without Zeovit is just Berlin. And I can still remembers Berlin days whereby most of us struggles with NO3. Correct me if I am wrong, I am ignorant sometimes. Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I am using plenum in my system... It seems to be maturing... A lot of gas bubble... Didnt take the NO3 reading... Haven got my test kit... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Blenny Posted November 6, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2005 Am also running a plenum on an external 2.5ft tank. Noticed that water NO3 improved lately after 6 months of installation. Had a DSB using 0 grade sand in a 4 ft fiberglass tank before adding plenum. NO3 always remain at 20ppm using salifert but now can go to 0.2 or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tigger Posted November 6, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2005 can u show a pics of yr plenum. I have dsb and its 2 years old liao. but hor i m not sure if its working anot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 That's correct bro! But I believe most that went BB are those that embraces Zeovit as well and they have the results to show. What worries me are those that go BB without Zeovit. I dunno but I from my limited knowledge BB without Zeovit is just Berlin. And I can still remembers Berlin days whereby most of us struggles with NO3. Correct me if I am wrong, I am ignorant sometimes. I dunno about other but i feel that if you have nutrient export using Macroalgae,, you can still keep NO3 under control... Provided you prune regularly... Correct me if i am wrong... Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I dunno about other but i feel that if you have nutrient export using Macroalgae,, you can still keep NO3 under control... Provided you prune regularly... Correct me if i am wrong... Yah loh, thats why we have evolved into Plenum, DSB and Refugium after Berlin. And that's why I dun understand the BB without Zeovit part. Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tineng Posted November 6, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 6, 2005 Yah loh, thats why we have evolved into Plenum, DSB and Refugium after Berlin. And that's why I dun understand the BB without Zeovit part. BB with zeovit.....thats pure berlin method Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryz_ Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Yah loh, thats why we have evolved into Plenum, DSB and Refugium after Berlin. And that's why I dun understand the BB without Zeovit part. Orh... You mean BB without Refuge and Zeovit huh... It is difficult to keep NO3 under control in that case... But i think most ppl going BB at least have a Refuge for nutrient export or uses Zeovit bah... Not a fan of BB... lol... So dunno much about how it works.. Quote Member of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Berlin in the past have problem with NO3 because they don't have so good skimmers then. Now with good skimmers, NO3 are less headache. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV-65 Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 I'm using Plenum... have a strong skimmer running and my no3 is undetectable... However, my plenum is only 8 months old... Quote People do not plan to fail; Often they just fail to plan... Wat I do to prevent myself from tearing my hair out... My stress remedy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tigger Posted November 7, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 7, 2005 Sorry, go off topic. May I know which test kit is accurate for NO3. I m using Aqualight, the shade of blue for 20-40ppm very difficult to differential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member May&Bruce Posted November 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 7, 2005 here is a pic of the plenum support. Quote Real reefs don't have glass bottoms....(...think about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member May&Bruce Posted November 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 7, 2005 With 6 inches of sand - lower 3 inches is coarse sand 3-4 mm, upper layer is fine sand. Quote Real reefs don't have glass bottoms....(...think about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member May&Bruce Posted November 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 7, 2005 Tank has now been running for about 3.5 months. NO3 is below 10. Am using a good sized Ocean Werx beckett skimmer. Quote Real reefs don't have glass bottoms....(...think about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Berlin in the past have problem with NO3 because they don't have so good skimmers then. Now with good skimmers, NO3 are less headache. So WL and Tineng, Do your guys think that The New Improved Berlin (Zeovit) method is good even for LPS? I have read somewhere that Zeovit method actually create a low nutrients environment that is very good for SPS but may not be that good for LPS or Softies. I mean, I totally am convinced what Zeovit can do for a SPS tank, but a little sceptical of Zeovit applied to a Mixed reef dominated by LPS, Softies & Fishes. What do you guys think? Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member aquabeAnz Posted November 7, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted November 7, 2005 sorry maybe off topic? can i rescape by using chips for the bottom of the tank? Quote That just because someone doesn’t love you the way you want them to, doesn’t mean they don’t love you with all they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chtan23 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 here is a pic of the plenum support. Hi May&Bruce, What did you put on the support before adding sand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member May&Bruce Posted November 7, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted November 7, 2005 Hey chtan23 We put a layer of that plastic fine mesh that the equipment shops sell (it has about 1mm holes). As we put a layer of coars sand down first, the mesh is perfect. Then we put another layer of the same mesh on top of the coarse sand before we put a layer of finer sand on top (to stop troublesome fish fromburrowing right through...) Quote Real reefs don't have glass bottoms....(...think about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chtan23 Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Hey chtan23 We put a layer of that plastic fine mesh that the equipment shops sell (it has about 1mm holes). As we put a layer of coars sand down first, the mesh is perfect. Then we put another layer of the same mesh on top of the coarse sand before we put a layer of finer sand on top (to stop troublesome fish fromburrowing right through...) Can tell me which shop you get it from? if not convenient, pm me. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I have read somewhere that Zeovit method actually create a low nutrients environment that is very good for SPS but may not be that good for LPS or Softies. I mean, I totally am convinced what Zeovit can do for a SPS tank, but a little sceptical of Zeovit applied to a Mixed reef dominated by LPS, Softies & Fishes. Judging from the way my rics and other LPS grow, I guess zeovit has no problems with softies and LPS. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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