SRC Member asg Posted February 18, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted February 18, 2006 anyone wanna share ways of cutting cost of maintaining a successful reef tank? Quote 子非鱼,焉知鱼之乐... (you are not the fish so you...) Then: my 4FT low tech selling off tank... (2006) Now: (2014) @Sept 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member madmac Posted March 1, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 yes... remove your sandbed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Travy Posted March 1, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 Really ah? Sand bed that bad...? Quote My Tank Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Alvin Tan Posted March 1, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 1, 2006 hmmz...maybe u shld post in the general reefkeeping IMO....seems that ur sandbed is the main cause for nitrate.. Quote view my 2ft tank thread update here!! http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36399 Tank Dimension: 24'x15'x19' with black silicon. All round 8mm. Equipments: Return Pump : Hailea HX6540 Skimmer/Chiller : Sicce 2500lph Skimmer : Weipro 2011 Lightings: 4xT5s HO..2 20,000k & 2 Blue Pro(Aquaz) Retrofits Chiller : Resun CL280 Auto Water Top Up Life Stock: More then 35kg of figi rocks Blue Tang, Powder Blue Tang, Bristletooth tang, Clown Tang, Yellow Tang, Purple Tang, Flame Angel, Six Line Wrasse, Sunrise Dottyback. 2 Cleaner Shrimp Green Bubble, Orange Yuma, Hammer, True Octopus, Acans, Frogspawn, Green/Orange Cyannaria, Red Prata, Red Open Brain, Star Polyp, Acan Enchinata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Metabolic_7 Posted March 2, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 but i thought sandbed have beneficial bacteria that break down nitrogen-based waste that is produced by marine life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ervine Posted March 2, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 but i thought sandbed have beneficial bacteria that break down nitrogen-based waste that is produced by marine life That was the old theory, new theory is that you don't need a sand bed as it in fact traps deitrus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Metabolic_7 Posted March 2, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 so u tell me that sand bed is like a Decorations item is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member c0ol Posted March 2, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 2, 2006 so u tell me that sand bed is like a Decorations item is it sort of bro...now some reefers go for BB(bare-bottom)or just have a thin layer of sand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member asg Posted March 8, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted March 8, 2006 few ways to save cost: * consolidated all purchases so as to ask for higher discount * ask around for prices as there can be a large varies in selling price * dont buy coral because you like them, buy because you can keep them sucessfully (ditto for fishes) money not easy to earn... Quote 子非鱼,焉知鱼之乐... (you are not the fish so you...) Then: my 4FT low tech selling off tank... (2006) Now: (2014) @Sept 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nakazoru Posted March 8, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 8, 2006 sort of bro...now some reefers go for BB(bare-bottom)or just have a thin layer of sand Is this a contest of the DSB and BB issue again? Quote Equipment: 30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer Live Stock: Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2 Reef: 1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato RIPs (Since June 2005): 1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...) Old 30G Corner Tank. Restarted 30G Corner Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member jc85 Posted March 8, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 8, 2006 Do note that bro andtsg is running a low tech tank. Suggesting BB for him will result in him investing in alot of high tech equipment, imho. DSB will still work if u ask me. Cheers JC Quote Earth Conservation Blog My Marine Blog For All Sengkang Residents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nakazoru Posted March 8, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 8, 2006 I'm a believer of DSB. Believer of balance in life. Believer of mother nature. BUT I'M GETTING A SKIMMER. Reason is that although DSB provide neutrient essential to my reef, the DOA is so high that I can almost notice the water density being so rich with my eyes. The air bubble does not burst on the surface and I know water needs to be change even without LS dying. I tried to mimic mother nature to the fullest extent but notice the limitation. I'm going to use my skimmer on a time schedule initially to see if this will work for a reef that grows. I have no intent to over-skim my reef and eliminates the benefit of DSB. Anyway DSB needs fine sand to work. Quote Equipment: 30G Corner Tank with 10G Sump, 2 x 24W artinic T5, 1 x 24W 10K, 1x 24W 20K, 3" Grade 0 sand & Live rocks, Activated Carbon, Bio-home, 2 x Seio M620, Hailea 1/2HP Chiller, Redsea Pro Skimmer Live Stock: Turbo Snail x 1, Green Mandarin Dragonet X 2, Blue Tang X 2, True percular x 2, 1 x Algae Bleenie, Clarke clown x 2 Reef: 1 x 2" Blue maxima, Red/Brown/Purple Mushroom (Discosoma), Pink Ricordea yuma, A little colony Brown/Green common Zoanthus, Red/Pink/Green US Zoanthus, Eagle-eye Zoathus, 14 Branch Goniopora Pandoraensis, 1 Starburst Polyps, 3 + 2 Branch Frogspawn, 4 Blasto, palythoa, Cheato RIPs (Since June 2005): 1. Sabae clown (KO by Clarke clown) 2. 1 branch melted frogspawn 4 branch 3. Golden maxima (Ripe the base off rock by me) 4. Algae Bleenie x 2 (Starvation) 5. Blue Maxima x 1, 2 x Maxima, 1 x frogspawn, rics (Overtemp...) Old 30G Corner Tank. Restarted 30G Corner Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Oceandeep Posted March 8, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 8, 2006 DIY Skimmer DIY skimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member asg Posted March 9, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted March 9, 2006 Do note that bro andtsg is running a low tech tank. Suggesting BB for him will result in him investing in alot of high tech equipment, imho. DSB will still work if u ask me. Cheers JC Hi! i dont quite understand why BB will require other equipments (other than the standard equipment, skimmer, filter, etc) to make it work?? can you please enlighten me? i am not investing in any other equipment, but no harm knowing more Quote 子非鱼,焉知鱼之乐... (you are not the fish so you...) Then: my 4FT low tech selling off tank... (2006) Now: (2014) @Sept 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 He meant that with BB you need powerful skimmer and higher flow to lift detritus into your sump so your skimmer can remove them. Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member madmac Posted March 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 9, 2006 Hi! i dont quite understand why BB will require other equipments (other than the standard equipment, skimmer, filter, etc) to make it work?? Thats because it doesn't. Done correctly, its a lot lesser equipment, a lot lesser resources, a lot lesser heat, and a lot lesser $$. I have nothing against sandbed substrates users, weather is aesthetically pleasing to you or otherwise. I think Bomber said it well when ask. If you like DSB, know what it does, if you like shallow SB, know what it does, if you like BB, know what it does. : ) ... and nakazoru, I seriously hope it didn't take you too long to realize, you can never mimic the ocean...oh and make that a ... BUT I'M GETTING A SMIMMER.. if u don't get the pun, PM me. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member godzillaliu88 Posted March 9, 2006 SRC Member Share Posted March 9, 2006 if not sand bed. wouldnt the glass crack from all the pressure of the stacked up LRs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member asg Posted March 10, 2006 Author SRC Member Share Posted March 10, 2006 i dont think it will crack, as the LRs will rest on the bottom of the tank and the cabinet is acting "against" the weight, thus the weight will be "transfer" to the leg of the cabinet. for every action, there is a reaction... sigh... reefers are sometimes a lonely lot... none of my friends/ colleagues keep reef... lonely river flows ~~~ to the sea, to the sea~~~ Quote 子非鱼,焉知鱼之乐... (you are not the fish so you...) Then: my 4FT low tech selling off tank... (2006) Now: (2014) @Sept 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damienkee Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 r u asking for a sps tank? im now running fishless & skimmless. but soon will run my skimmer again. currently wat i realise after running fishless & skimless after my tank crash. -PE more -growth rate more -color turning more brown than b4 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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