mengyang_neo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Any bro out there know what is the different between Crystal glass and starphire glass? And is there such a thing as china made crystal glass? If so is there a different between them and maybe crystal glass from other country? Cause from my understanding, there is quite a big different in price between china made Crystal glass and high grade starphire glass. Is there china made starphire glass also? Sorry for a lot of question, kind of confuse here. Quote 5x2.5x1.5ft Rimless Dream Tank (06/03/12) Skimmer - Reefoctupus Return Pump - 1 x Eheim 1264, 1 x water blaster 7kWavemaker - 2 x mp40esChiller - Daikin compressor with coil drop inLighting - 4 x 80w T5 Pair 1(6hrs23/12/12),Pair 2(16/06/12312hrs 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (1/3/12) -(15/11/12)6hrs and 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (13/10/12) -6hrs) Reactor - Dosing pump (01/01/11) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member serravorte Posted November 10, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted November 10, 2011 signing up too... wanna know the diff also.. mabb going for a new tank.. Quote My 3ft tank Dimension --> 3ftx1.5ftx2ft Ehiem 1262 return Ehiem 1260 Artica 1/5hp Chiller Tunze 6055 + 7091 single controller EcoTech Marine Vortech MP40W Royal Exclusive Mini BubbleKing 160 Lumenarc 250watt 10K BLV 02x Giesemann T5 39watt (blue + Actinic) Deltec 501 CR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter Harlequinmania Posted November 10, 2011 SRC Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2011 Starphire glass is a brand of lead free and low iron contain glass . When you see across the edge of the glass it has a blue tint similar to crystal glass but the clarity is much better than the normal crystal glass. But it is also one of the more expensive glass in the market. Some said that it bring out the full natural colors of corals especially clams,,, Another option is to go for acrylic but it need to be taken care of carefully since it tend to get sketches more easily than regular glass. Quote 1000 Gallon Tank in the Hole http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/120957-1000-gallon-3d-hole-in-the-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mengyang_neo Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Starphire glass is a brand of lead free and low iron contain glass . When you see across the edge of the glass it has a blue tint similar to crystal glass but the clarity is much better than the normal crystal glass. But it is also one of the more expensive glass in the market. Some said that it bring out the full natural colors of corals especially clams,,, Another option is to go for acrylic but it need to be taken care of carefully since it tend to get sketches more easily than regular glass. I see, and is it true that china made crystal glass is cheaper? Or china made one is crystal glass and other country made one is starphire glass so the price difference? Yup acrylic is another option but for big tank like 5ft, I think the cost of making one is far more ex then tank with full starphire glass. I never check out the price but this is what I thought. =p Quote 5x2.5x1.5ft Rimless Dream Tank (06/03/12) Skimmer - Reefoctupus Return Pump - 1 x Eheim 1264, 1 x water blaster 7kWavemaker - 2 x mp40esChiller - Daikin compressor with coil drop inLighting - 4 x 80w T5 Pair 1(6hrs23/12/12),Pair 2(16/06/12312hrs 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (1/3/12) -(15/11/12)6hrs and 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (13/10/12) -6hrs) Reactor - Dosing pump (01/01/11) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter Harlequinmania Posted November 10, 2011 SRC Supporter Share Posted November 10, 2011 China make crystal glass is definitely much much more cheaper elsewhere. But some said that there is a different in the clarity due to the content in the glass if you make a comparasison on the glass between a china made crystal and other but again it is very hard to tell with our naked eye unless we do a lab testing.. Quote 1000 Gallon Tank in the Hole http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topic/120957-1000-gallon-3d-hole-in-the-wall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 10, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have seen both grades before. As Larry has pointed out, not discernible with the naked eye at thinner glass unless you are building a big tank using like 3/4" thick glass and above. There is a slight yellowish cast in the Chinese crystal glass in this case. Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted November 10, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted November 10, 2011 China make crystal glass is definitely much much more cheaper elsewhere. But some said that there is a different in the clarity due to the content in the glass if you make a comparasison on the glass between a china made crystal and other but again it is very hard to tell with our naked eye unless we do a lab testing.. I think it depends on the vendor whether honest to tell customers if using china made or others. So long the vendor don't pass off china crystal glass as "ang mo" crystal glass, I'm ok with them telling the truth, just dun smoke. If I find out later..... I'll provide free ads for the company. Lots of stuff now cheena made. So sometimes very very difficult to scrutinize them. My opinion is so long it is gd quality, country of origin is not an issue. So far I've searched & found that asahi is 2nd rated glass as compared to low iron glass. I know starphire glass is a brand name for low iron from the web.... So visually, can one differentiate asahi glass & low iron glass, maybe from the sides, low iron looks clearer? Thanks! Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member comycus Posted November 10, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted November 10, 2011 Based on what I know, asahi glass, Japanese grade 1 glass, float glass all refer to the normal glass we see, slight greenish cast. Maybe different brands from different manufacturers so all have different names. To me, they are all the same. Crystal glass, starphire glass, low iron glass refers to optically superior glass. Again may have slight differences between them, but to me they are pretty similar. I may be wrong, so if there are glass experts out there, can point out the finer differences to what I have broadly classified as 2 categories. 1 Quote My old 3ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mengyang_neo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 Hi guy thanks for the reply, now got a better understanding of the difference between the glass. Quote 5x2.5x1.5ft Rimless Dream Tank (06/03/12) Skimmer - Reefoctupus Return Pump - 1 x Eheim 1264, 1 x water blaster 7kWavemaker - 2 x mp40esChiller - Daikin compressor with coil drop inLighting - 4 x 80w T5 Pair 1(6hrs23/12/12),Pair 2(16/06/12312hrs 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (1/3/12) -(15/11/12)6hrs and 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (13/10/12) -6hrs) Reactor - Dosing pump (01/01/11) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member sunny03 Posted November 11, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted November 11, 2011 Hi guy thanks for the reply, now got a better understanding of the difference between the glass. when changing new tank ... Quote Selling big game fishing equipment. Stella 20k / 17k .. made in Japan jigging blue rose / kabuzu popping rod... pm for prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mengyang_neo Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 Soon. Quote 5x2.5x1.5ft Rimless Dream Tank (06/03/12) Skimmer - Reefoctupus Return Pump - 1 x Eheim 1264, 1 x water blaster 7kWavemaker - 2 x mp40esChiller - Daikin compressor with coil drop inLighting - 4 x 80w T5 Pair 1(6hrs23/12/12),Pair 2(16/06/12312hrs 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (1/3/12) -(15/11/12)6hrs and 2 x 80w De-lighting Retrofit (13/10/12) -6hrs) Reactor - Dosing pump (01/01/11) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LittleBurger Posted November 11, 2011 SRC Member Share Posted November 11, 2011 Hi guy thanks for the reply, now got a better understanding of the difference between the glass. Thks to yr thread & bros who chip in their knowledge. I know what to look out for and paying the "reasonable" price for it. Quote Tank size:36"x36"x24" Return pump" 2x Reef Octo 5000 Skimmer:BK Double Cone 200 on Reef Octopus DC 5500s. Wavemaker:2xVortech MP40wES Chemical filtration:1xeducator FR(biopellets) Chiller:1hp Daikin compressor. Lighting:2 x Kessil A360we Auto topup system: JBJ ATO + new jet 1200 Dosing system: Kamoer 3 channel. Additives: ESV 2 part. Power consumption 2XReef Octo 5000: 120watts BK skimmer:50watts 2xVortech wavemaker:70watts Daikin compressor:775watts Lighting:180watts Ato system:21watts Exhaust fans:16watts Refugium light:27watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesy74 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Also looking to make a new tank soon, so what is the reasonable extra cost compared to a normal tank? Also can we mix glass i.e the crystal on the front only to cut cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member youdontnowm Posted April 3, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes u can make only the front crysttal glass. For my 4x1.5ft , its 60$ add on for cystal Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk Quote | Display : 48x30x22 Skimmer : SK-201 skimz | Sump : 30x24x18 Wavemaker : 2x RW-15 , 1x RW-8 | Cooling : 1HP titanium drop in coil ATO : JBJ | Lighting : ATI Sunpower 8x54w + 48x cree xte royal blue Return : Jebao dc-6000 | Dosing : Jebao dosing pump [ CaCl2 + NaHCO3 ] Pump : | Reactor : FSZ Z160 zeolite reactor & phosban 150 | System : ZEOVIT decomm-ed : Ydkm SPS reef >><< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weesy74 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Does the tank look less green? Worth doing or no difference? Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member james72 Posted April 4, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted April 4, 2014 Absolutely worth doing especially for front view. The colours of corals will appear differently under normal glass Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Cheers, James Reviving my reef tank : Crystal glass 53" x 22" x 17" rimless (inclusive of 12"x22"x17" IOS) Life Reef HVS3-24 with mazzei venturi ATI Sunpower 8 x 39w T5 (4 x Blue plus, 2 x Aqua blue special, Coral plus) ZET Light 3 x 3w LEDs moonlight Arctica 1/3 Hp + 1/4 Hp back up Vortech mp40w x 3 + Jebao wp25 Eheim 1264 x 3 + water blaster 5000 Vortech back up battery TLF-150 + Rowaphos Activated carbon Kamoer 3 channel + CaCl2 + NaHCo3 150L Refugium with DSB, miracle mud, cheato 2ft T5 x 2 light tubes for refugium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member youdontnowm Posted April 4, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted April 4, 2014 +1. Worth it. Sent from my GT-N7105 using Tapatalk Quote | Display : 48x30x22 Skimmer : SK-201 skimz | Sump : 30x24x18 Wavemaker : 2x RW-15 , 1x RW-8 | Cooling : 1HP titanium drop in coil ATO : JBJ | Lighting : ATI Sunpower 8x54w + 48x cree xte royal blue Return : Jebao dc-6000 | Dosing : Jebao dosing pump [ CaCl2 + NaHCO3 ] Pump : | Reactor : FSZ Z160 zeolite reactor & phosban 150 | System : ZEOVIT decomm-ed : Ydkm SPS reef >><< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Aquareef123 Posted April 5, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted April 5, 2014 Go Fish Channel take a look. U will be amazed by the crystal glass. I'm tempted also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymarcus Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Used crystal glass for my front panel. No regrets! If it's a single panel it isn't too expensive in relation I guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymarcus Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Used crystal for my front viewing panel. No regrets! It isn't that much more in relation if you think about it too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian_ych Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ok....I think this is much misunderstanding. Starphire glass - low iron glass. cost ard 10% to 15% more than normal glass (in large qty esp for buildings or skyscrapers). - preferred as let in more light (up to 30% for ultra clear) therefore works well with UV solar applied (not so dark) - no crystal rocks involved - edge is clear (glass is slightly green, sapphire is blue) Crystal Glass - alternative to crystals (used in making table ware or cosmetics containers) - barium oxide, zinc oxide, or potassium oxide are employed instead of lead oxide. - Lead-free crystal has a similar refractive index to lead crystal, but it is lighter and it has less dispersive power - cost compared to glass is more than 35% - safety issues raised with long-term use (for food and drinks) Sapphire - very costly - used in making watch faces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandagold Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Are they softer and scratches easily for both glass ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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