SRC Member LiveRock Posted October 17, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 17, 2002 hello there I have a small tank and do not want to consider a chiller but I do monitor the temperature. Every night, I would top up evaporated water with fresh water stored in my fridge. As such, the temp are within 30-31 degrees. I find corals so fasinating but resist buying them because I want to be able to keep them alive and flourishing.... right now, I have only mushrooms. I have tried others like hammer heads, jewel coral but they failed to survive. I wonder, is there a group of corals that thrive in warmer waters? Does a Sun coral stand a chance? Thanks for any inputs..... cheers! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanzy Posted October 17, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 17, 2002 The temperature is high for a marine tank. If you can't keep hammers or anchor corals at that temperature, I won't recommend trying others because the anchors are very hardy. Quote Warning: Heavy handed moderator in operation. Threads and post are liable to be deleted or moved without prior notification. Moderator's prerogative will be enforced. Any grievances or complains should be addressed to The Administrator. http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/uploads/post-36-1073276974.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Tanzy Posted October 17, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 17, 2002 Any chance of adding some fans to help lower the temperature? Quote Warning: Heavy handed moderator in operation. Threads and post are liable to be deleted or moved without prior notification. Moderator's prerogative will be enforced. Any grievances or complains should be addressed to The Administrator. http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/uploads/post-36-1073276974.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep4546 Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 why not try to add fans or changes the location of your fishtank.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orgas Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 i had my tank at abt 30-31 too. but since i added a fan, it had dropped to abt 28-29. But have too top-up water EVERYday. buy a fan it will help. orgas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tigershark Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 my water temp around 30~31 deg cel.... after adding 2 80mm DC fann + 1 96mm DC fan + 1 60mm high rpm DC fan... my temp could go as low as 27~28 deg.... but the water evaporation..... scary.. i need to top up arund 1~1.5 litre of water everyday...mine just a 2' tank!!! Quote Want to know more about my tank? Follow here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member wsiong Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 My tank a 2 footer also had the same situation. It really didn't make sense to me to top up water everyday...what if I am away for a few days? So had to move the chiller from my FW over to this little one. At least the FW could still survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member loonz Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Morgan has his tank out in his porch directly under the sun, only covered by a piece of acrylic, as such his tank is always about 30C or higher even with a fan blowing. Guess what? He has all kinds of corals in his tank. Temperature might not be the deciding factor here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Phang Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Hmmmmm..... Interesting.... Morgan, If you are reading this... would be great if you can elaborate on your set up ...... and how you managed to keep those corals under such conditions....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Hey guys Do not get the wrong idea. Coral cannot survive if the temp stay at 30~31 constant long term. Yes my tank gets direct sunlight from 9:30 to about 2:30 and the water temp get to about 30C in the afternoon. 32C on really hot days. But night time temp is around 27~28. I have a fan blowing 24/7. This kind of temp is not really suitable for all kind of corals. I know that fox coral cannot tahan the heat, also elegant coral. So far the rest are OK and growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Phang Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 What about those Acros that you have ??? ar they in your outdoor tank??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 The acros are in that tank. They are fine and growing. Just no luck with that 2 type of corals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Phang Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 You managed to keep Acros in that kind of temperature...??? WOW.... That's amazing... thought to sustain them, at least a temperature of 27 C.... hey... share share lah... then maybe I don't need a chiller by then... Could it be becos of your large volume water that brought about stability... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I really hope so. I have 5 colonys and 6 frags of acros at the moment. I do not know whether you will have similar result if the vol of water is smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LiveRock Posted October 18, 2002 Author SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Thanks for the inputs.. I do have an AC fan blowing directly at the water surface and it is on 24/7. tigershark, where did u get the dC fans or did u DIY? U must have a DC supply to drive them, rite? How do u mount them? Here is a tricky question: What are the pros and cons between using fans and a chiller? I mean, is reducing the amount of water evaporation by keeping the water cool better than topping up with fresh, new water using fan blowing? Beside the obvious, one should also consider the cost of a chiller and running it. If chiller fails, is a disaster be expected? Also, I know that the ocean maintain its stable temp. mainly because of it's enormous size but it also experience a lot of evaporation too.... 'topping up' is in the form of rains and river flow... Back to the basic question: It seems to me that to be really successful, keeping the water from overheating is an absolute must. Maybe there is no such thing as a warm water coral :-) Guess I have to stick to my mushrooms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Phang Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Here is a tricky question:What are the pros and cons between using fans and a chiller? I mean, is reducing the amount of water evaporation by keeping the water cool better than topping up with fresh, new water using fan blowing? Beside the obvious, one should also consider the cost of a chiller and running it. If chiller fails, is a disaster be expected? Also, I know that the ocean maintain its stable temp. mainly because of it's enormous size but it also experience a lot of evaporation too.... 'topping up' is in the form of rains and river flow... Back to the basic question: It seems to me that to be really successful, keeping the water from overheating is an absolute must. Maybe there is no such thing as a warm water coral :-) Guess I have to stick to my mushrooms... I think it has alot to do with the size of your tank... having the understanding that if there is a large amount of evaporation from a small sized tank, changes in your salinity would be substantial..... Most likely would affect your invertebrates health.... And again in regards to chiller, a smaller volume of water would require less time to chill and less operation time of the chiller therefore resulting in lower running cost... The initial cost of purchasing one might be high but if a proper HP Chiller in respect to tank size/volume is done.... would result in a reasonable cost.... You are right, there are not much "warm water coral", only dead ones... BTW Morgan, What's the total volume of your 8 footer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Phang Water volume of my tank........2038L or 538US gal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Phang Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Hey, I think you hold the local record for largest tank... exluding the Underwater World..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hongqixian Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Underwater world's large FO tank is lousy after you get used to a real reef tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep4546 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 morgan your tank is big must have a hard time in maintaining your tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Hey guys I am not sure I hold or want to hold the record, maybe someone out there could have a tank more like a swimming pool with sharks. ep4546 I am basically a very lazy person so if it too hard I would give up the hobby. Seriously now, I clean the glass once a week if I up to it but then there are times I do not do it for a month. Top up water every day (no choice) That about it. Oh yes feed some of the corals every now and then. (which is not frequent enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member tigershark Posted October 18, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 18, 2002 Thanks for the inputs..I do have an AC fan blowing directly at the water surface and it is on 24/7. tigershark, where did u get the dC fans or did u DIY? U must have a DC supply to drive them, rite? How do u mount them? Here is a tricky question: What are the pros and cons between using fans and a chiller? I mean, is reducing the amount of water evaporation by keeping the water cool better than topping up with fresh, new water using fan blowing? Beside the obvious, one should also consider the cost of a chiller and running it. If chiller fails, is a disaster be expected? Also, I know that the ocean maintain its stable temp. mainly because of it's enormous size but it also experience a lot of evaporation too.... 'topping up' is in the form of rains and river flow... Back to the basic question: It seems to me that to be really successful, keeping the water from overheating is an absolute must. Maybe there is no such thing as a warm water coral :-) Guess I have to stick to my mushrooms... use a AC to DC adapter...i got a 1.0 amp rating adapter, bought for $22 enough for me to run all the 4 DC fan i have. If you are runing only 2 pcs of 80mm fan, 0.5 amp is more than enought... Using a DC fan is much more safer than AC ones as if an ac fan leak.... you will in trouble..... some of my DC fan were bought from Sim lim tower...i'm a CPU overclocker last time and I need quite a few fan to bring down my chasis temp, as close as room temp, by doing that, my CPU temp would cool down more.... you could actually look for those deserted/unwanted old computer and tear out the DC fan from their PSU.... Quote Want to know more about my tank? Follow here!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member X_Japan Posted October 19, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 19, 2002 hmm................... about the largest tank thingy.............I've heard of a local fella who keeps a 12 feet reef tank..........he lives in a bungalow so his tank is entirely drilled into the wall with the system in another compartment underneath the tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member CKS Posted October 19, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 19, 2002 blah enough of big tanks is there any nano keeper here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hongqixian Posted October 19, 2002 SRC Member Share Posted October 19, 2002 Everyone with a 2ft tank is a nano keeper lor... like me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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