SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 My office will be having some maintenance done at the end of the month, and I'll need a backup power supply to at least run either my return pump (Ehiem Compact 1000) or my MP10 for approx. 8hrs. Is there anyone who can direct me where I can get a reliable power supply that is easy to use? How much would it cost? Many thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnsfpl Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 get APC UPS, but for 8 hours, its a bit tough you might want to consider just to power the wave maker cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Goondoo Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Sim Lim Square (3rd storey and above) Sim Lim Tower... Quote Regards, Billy Cheong 70gal, 250w MH (Reeflux 12000K), Tunze Nano Wavebox 6206, Tunze 6045, Tunze 6025, Teco TW4, Rio HF20, Aquabee 3000L, Rio HF17, SM100 Scrubber box (4x24w T5 2700K) Fish: Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clowns), Nemateleotris magnifica (Firefish), Pterapogon kauderni (Kaudern's Cardinal) Inverts: Calcinus laevimanus (Hermit Crab), Lysmata amboinensis (Cleaner Shrimp), Sand Dollar Corals: Capnella (Purple Hairy Finger Leather), Plerogyra sinuosa (Green Bubble Coral), Euphyllia glabrescens (Torch Coral), Dendrophyllia (Supersun Coral), Rhodactis spp. (Hairy Mushroom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Thanks guys! Do you have a rough cost estimate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member BFG Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 As far as I know, some UPS might not be good to be used for our aquarium equipment due to the different electrical wavelength. If the UPS is designed for pc or server use, it's not to be used for our equipment. Learnt it here in SRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 As far as I know, some UPS might not be good to be used for our aquarium equipment due to the different electrical wavelength. If the UPS is designed for pc or server use, it's not to be used for our equipment. Learnt it here in SRC. Oh my... do you have any alternative suggestions, or perhaps point me to a link where I can gather more information? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Goondoo Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 As far as I know, some UPS might not be good to be used for our aquarium equipment due to the different electrical wavelength. If the UPS is designed for pc or server use, it's not to be used for our equipment. Learnt it here in SRC. Interesting.... Any good link for a start? Quote Regards, Billy Cheong 70gal, 250w MH (Reeflux 12000K), Tunze Nano Wavebox 6206, Tunze 6045, Tunze 6025, Teco TW4, Rio HF20, Aquabee 3000L, Rio HF17, SM100 Scrubber box (4x24w T5 2700K) Fish: Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clowns), Nemateleotris magnifica (Firefish), Pterapogon kauderni (Kaudern's Cardinal) Inverts: Calcinus laevimanus (Hermit Crab), Lysmata amboinensis (Cleaner Shrimp), Sand Dollar Corals: Capnella (Purple Hairy Finger Leather), Plerogyra sinuosa (Green Bubble Coral), Euphyllia glabrescens (Torch Coral), Dendrophyllia (Supersun Coral), Rhodactis spp. (Hairy Mushroom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tench1 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Peace, since u have mp10 why not consider the battery backup from vortex? I'm planning to set up ups for my she tank as well, but still in oplanning stage. It will cos u approx 300, that will power ur mp10 for 3 to 7hrs. If u want a cheaper option, get a battery powered air pump. It actually can cover a blackout for 2 to r hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Goondoo Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Peace, since u have mp10 why not consider the battery backup from vortex? I'm planning to set up ups for my she tank as well, but still in oplanning stage. It will cos u approx 300, that will power ur mp10 for 3 to 7hrs. If u want a cheaper option, get a battery powered air pump. It actually can cover a blackout for 2 to r hrs. Battery operated air pumps can usually last more than 12 hrs on 2 energizer D size ... Quote Regards, Billy Cheong 70gal, 250w MH (Reeflux 12000K), Tunze Nano Wavebox 6206, Tunze 6045, Tunze 6025, Teco TW4, Rio HF20, Aquabee 3000L, Rio HF17, SM100 Scrubber box (4x24w T5 2700K) Fish: Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clowns), Nemateleotris magnifica (Firefish), Pterapogon kauderni (Kaudern's Cardinal) Inverts: Calcinus laevimanus (Hermit Crab), Lysmata amboinensis (Cleaner Shrimp), Sand Dollar Corals: Capnella (Purple Hairy Finger Leather), Plerogyra sinuosa (Green Bubble Coral), Euphyllia glabrescens (Torch Coral), Dendrophyllia (Supersun Coral), Rhodactis spp. (Hairy Mushroom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Peace, since u have mp10 why not consider the battery backup from vortex? I'm planning to set up ups for my she tank as well, but still in oplanning stage. It will cos u approx 300, that will power ur mp10 for 3 to 7hrs. If u want a cheaper option, get a battery powered air pump. It actually can cover a blackout for 2 to r hrs. Haha... price is a great deterrence in this case, otherwise, I would have gotten it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Battery operated air pumps can usually last more than 12 hrs on 2 energizer D size ... Are you very certain it'll last that long? I do have one that I bought from those live bait fishing shops. I was worried it wouldn't last that long, that's why I'm looking for other alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member onizukaa Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Haha... price is a great deterrence in this case, otherwise, I would have gotten it. i got one taiwan made battery operated air pump at c328 can run very long (more then 24 hours continous on) with 2 D battery bro if you need it sms me / pm me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Goondoo Posted July 9, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Are you very certain it'll last that long? I do have one that I bought from those live bait fishing shops. I was worried it wouldn't last that long, that's why I'm looking for other alternatives. Well, I assume they could only get better... We usually just use a pair for over night fishing under Sheares Bridge.... definitely more than 12 hrs.... (that was more than 10 years ago) All I remember was Energizer "D" size batteries Quote Regards, Billy Cheong 70gal, 250w MH (Reeflux 12000K), Tunze Nano Wavebox 6206, Tunze 6045, Tunze 6025, Teco TW4, Rio HF20, Aquabee 3000L, Rio HF17, SM100 Scrubber box (4x24w T5 2700K) Fish: Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clowns), Nemateleotris magnifica (Firefish), Pterapogon kauderni (Kaudern's Cardinal) Inverts: Calcinus laevimanus (Hermit Crab), Lysmata amboinensis (Cleaner Shrimp), Sand Dollar Corals: Capnella (Purple Hairy Finger Leather), Plerogyra sinuosa (Green Bubble Coral), Euphyllia glabrescens (Torch Coral), Dendrophyllia (Supersun Coral), Rhodactis spp. (Hairy Mushroom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 Well, I assume they could only get better... We usually just use a pair for over night fishing under Sheares Bridge.... definitely more than 12 hrs.... (that was more than 10 years ago) All I remember was Energizer "D" size batteries Lol... sounds good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 9, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 9, 2010 i got one taiwan made battery operated air pump at c328 can run very long (more then 24 hours continous on) with 2 D battery bro if you need it sms me / pm me Thanks for the offer, bro! I'll keep this in mind, and if my pump fails, you'll get an SOS call from me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member BFG Posted July 10, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 10, 2010 Oh my... do you have any alternative suggestions, or perhaps point me to a link where I can gather more information? You might ask the contractor doing the maintenance whether they can provide an extension to your tank. Interesting.... Any good link for a start? Have to search way back in SRC. Maybe try searching for UPS in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clee123 Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 Bro, If you just want a backup power supply and not the auto UPS... can goto Sim Lim tower to get a invertor + battery pack.. Calculate the total W you need (e.g. the air pumps + wavemaker = 60W), for buffer get a 100W inverter and tell the shop owner you need standby power for 8 hrs..he should be able to advice you on the Amp of the battery pack to buy. A 100W inverter + a small battery pack should not cost more than $150... BTW, you might need to get a charger to charge the battery pack if the inverter don't bandle with this feature.. Can read my thread on this.. http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=86191&st=60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 13, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 13, 2010 Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Goondoo Posted July 13, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 13, 2010 You might ask the contractor doing the maintenance whether they can provide an extension to your tank. Have to search way back in SRC. Maybe try searching for UPS in this forum. I just want to read about it and consult the Electrical Engineers in my company... else also don't how to ask. Tried searching and googling UPS too..... too many returns.... lol.... Quote Regards, Billy Cheong 70gal, 250w MH (Reeflux 12000K), Tunze Nano Wavebox 6206, Tunze 6045, Tunze 6025, Teco TW4, Rio HF20, Aquabee 3000L, Rio HF17, SM100 Scrubber box (4x24w T5 2700K) Fish: Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clowns), Nemateleotris magnifica (Firefish), Pterapogon kauderni (Kaudern's Cardinal) Inverts: Calcinus laevimanus (Hermit Crab), Lysmata amboinensis (Cleaner Shrimp), Sand Dollar Corals: Capnella (Purple Hairy Finger Leather), Plerogyra sinuosa (Green Bubble Coral), Euphyllia glabrescens (Torch Coral), Dendrophyllia (Supersun Coral), Rhodactis spp. (Hairy Mushroom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member BFG Posted July 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 14, 2010 I just want to read about it and consult the Electrical Engineers in my company... else also don't how to ask. Tried searching and googling UPS too..... too many returns.... lol.... I fail to search it here. But I remember distinctively that the sine wave produced by the UPS is not the same as the sine wave the motor in our equipment use. Hence, the motor might get damaged if used with UPS that is created for pc and server. I even remember that the UPS seller in the thread warned against using the UPS for equipment power back up, same reasoning too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyBoy Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Should be ok to use cheapo UPS available in the market as the harmonics produced by the UPS is not strong enough to damage the wavemaker pumps because the pump motor used is small type and in water. I think use airpump should be ok to circulate the water in the small tank for short period. Quote Member of : UEN: T08SS0098FMASS in Facebook Reefing in LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Goondoo Posted July 14, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 14, 2010 I fail to search it here. But I remember distinctively that the sine wave produced by the UPS is not the same as the sine wave the motor in our equipment use. Hence, the motor might get damaged if used with UPS that is created for pc and server. I even remember that the UPS seller in the thread warned against using the UPS for equipment power back up, same reasoning too. As far as I remember, UPS usually will give you a more stable Sine Wave compared to direct socket. Which is why I wonder how it could affect the equipments negatively. Anyway, I will try go find out more from those engineers, thanks! Quote Regards, Billy Cheong 70gal, 250w MH (Reeflux 12000K), Tunze Nano Wavebox 6206, Tunze 6045, Tunze 6025, Teco TW4, Rio HF20, Aquabee 3000L, Rio HF17, SM100 Scrubber box (4x24w T5 2700K) Fish: Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clowns), Nemateleotris magnifica (Firefish), Pterapogon kauderni (Kaudern's Cardinal) Inverts: Calcinus laevimanus (Hermit Crab), Lysmata amboinensis (Cleaner Shrimp), Sand Dollar Corals: Capnella (Purple Hairy Finger Leather), Plerogyra sinuosa (Green Bubble Coral), Euphyllia glabrescens (Torch Coral), Dendrophyllia (Supersun Coral), Rhodactis spp. (Hairy Mushroom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yippee Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Not all UPS produce pure sine waveform. Cheaper one for PC use is of stepped approximation, which is ok, since it's converted to DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted July 15, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted July 15, 2010 Hi Yujin, For 8hrs, you might just want to consider battery operated air pumps. it is sufficient. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member peacemaker Posted July 15, 2010 Author SRC Member Share Posted July 15, 2010 Yes, I have one, so I'll be using that. Its a sat morning, so kinda irritated that I have to wake up early and go back to office just to start the pump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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