SRC Member kksg2000 Posted January 25, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 25, 2013 I already have a FR running bio pallet and do not want to set up another FR running Rowaphos. It is effective if I bagged Rowaphos and placed it directly under the return water? tks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I already have a FR running bio pallet and do not want to set up another FR running Rowaphos. It is effective if I bagged Rowaphos and placed it directly under the return water? tks. If your PO4 is not really high and you are able to manually shake your bag daily, it should be alright. But if your PO4 is high, its better to use FR as it will be more efficient. Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ahhyi Posted January 25, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 25, 2013 I'm doing that too. Will be add fr soon. Coz from what I read and understand from pple is if use FR more efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kksg2000 Posted January 25, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 25, 2013 Can I run both Rowaphos (bagged) and bio pallet in the same FR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gouldian Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Can I run both Rowaphos (bagged) and bio pallet in the same FR? Try not to as the bagged rowaphos will prevent bio pellet from fluidising. Bio pellets require good fluidizing in order to perform optimally. Best is to have bot in separate FR. Quote "Reefs, like forests, will only be protected in long term if they are appreciated" Dr. J.E.N. Veron Australian Institute of Marine Science -----------------------------------------------------------------------Member of:UEN: T08SS0098FPlease visit us here: http://www.facebook....uaristSocietySG Facebook Group: http://www.facebook....gid=34281892381 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiya Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Is it due to a space constraint that you cannot run 2 FRs? Based on my personal experience (I hope the experienced guys can chime in too), I think it's harder to reduce phosphates than nitrates. So assuming you have a space constrain, run the phosphate remover instead.. Your live rocks can do the removal of nitrates.. Let us know how it goes? Quote 4 x 2 x 1 low tank DIY LED Trying to minimise equipment as much as possible. Would love to make new friends in the reefing community - PM me! A short video of my tank on a Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kksg2000 Posted January 27, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 27, 2013 Is it due to a space constraint that you cannot run 2 FRs? Based on my personal experience (I hope the experienced guys can chime in too), I think it's harder to reduce phosphates than nitrates. So assuming you have a space constrain, run the phosphate remover instead.. Your live rocks can do the removal of nitrates.. Let us know how it goes? it is not due to space constrains.. just want to cut down on electricity usage... too many equipments drawing power from the same wall outlet, dont know ok or not. anyway decided to get 2nd hand fr from a reefer later. last question - should i or should not i bag the rowaphos inside the fr? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sty68 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Rowaphos should not be bag in the fr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hanafi_weeseng Posted January 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 28, 2013 Just start using rowaphos but not sure how much to add for my 422.Need to know when or how often I have to change the rowa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted January 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 28, 2013 my tank's a 34L.. how much to add? if i buy a 500ml bottle issit ok if i just dump the whole bottle in a net? Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member surreal1228 Posted January 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 28, 2013 my tank's a 34L.. how much to add? if i buy a 500ml bottle issit ok if i just dump the whole bottle in a net? You will find only 40% left in ur bag/net if not using fr. They are too fine.... Quote :superman: :superman: :superman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted January 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 28, 2013 u mean the rest simply dissolve into the water? Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member DeadmanZ Posted January 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 28, 2013 I guess he mean they'll 'escape' from the net/bag and float around in tank... Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted January 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 29, 2013 Oh... I bought a pretty fine net from c328.. Can use to hold purigen. Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kksg2000 Posted January 29, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted January 29, 2013 I actually wrapped with cotton wool and place under the return pipe before i setup my fr. fr works better and it's nt expensive to get a used one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted January 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 29, 2013 my tank's only a 1ft cube and i dun have a sump.. only a big HOB filter. Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member illumnae Posted January 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 29, 2013 Depending on whether you believe that aluminium will leech into your water, you can consider using Seachem Phosguard instead for your nano. I used it in a filter bag in my OF 24L (the previous office tank) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldrick Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Depending on whether you believe that aluminium will leech into your water, you can consider using Seachem Phosguard instead for your nano. I used it in a filter bag in my OF 24L (the previous office tank) Is the seachem pho sugared effective when u place in a filter bag n into ur filter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted January 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 29, 2013 Depending on whether you believe that aluminium will leech into your water, you can consider using Seachem Phosguard instead for your nano. I used it in a filter bag in my OF 24L (the previous office tank) i've been reading alot debate on aluminium based VS iron based phosphate remover and it seems like seachem phosguard will absorb large amount of po4 initially and get exhausted very quickly and iron based like rowaphos is slower but more steady absorption.. overall rowaphos appears to be the obvious choice.. Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member illumnae Posted January 30, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 30, 2013 Yes, but rowaphos requires placement in an FR for maximum efficiency. You put in in a filter bag and given its small grain, it will compact over time and you will just get bypass flow over it. Remember, fine mesh filter bag also restricts water flow, and we all know water takes the path of least resistance. End up with super low efficiency which is likely to be surpassed by even seachem phosguard. Sometimes you need to match the product to your limitations - in ideal vs ideal circumstances, rowaphos surpasses phosguard. But in a situation where you have no FR and only a small hob to place a filter bag in, then logically you shouldn't be using rowaphos. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted January 30, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thanks for explaining.. I get what u mean.. But already bought some rowaphos placed in my filter. Maybe after this exhausted ill get some phodguard to try. Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiya Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 it is not due to space constrains.. just want to cut down on electricity usage... too many equipments drawing power from the same wall outlet, dont know ok or not. anyway decided to get 2nd hand fr from a reefer later. last question - should i or should not i bag the rowaphos inside the fr? thanks don't worry about the electricity - most of us probably already have a dedicated pump for the chiller, just send the outlet of the chiller into your FR.. The benefits of having a FR far exceeds the 'savings' for electricity.. 2ndly, I prefer iron based phosphate removals as you can leave and forget for a few months.. 1 less thing to worry means more time to enjoy the tank Let us know how things turn out, and if the FR works for you.. Quote 4 x 2 x 1 low tank DIY LED Trying to minimise equipment as much as possible. Would love to make new friends in the reefing community - PM me! A short video of my tank on a Sunday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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