Griessingeri Goby Thread;

[diabolus]

Wah gressingeri sound like a good choice for me cos my tank is over run by pods

i dun mind adopting them....all of them!

[Dispar_Anthias]

i dun mind adopting them....all of them!

adopts ah can loh.. if i can catch.. cos if amipopods get hungry they will not hesitate to wack zoos

[diabolus]

wack zoos!

then no way, the only corals i have in my nano are softies....

[Dispar_Anthias]

wack zoos!

then no way, the only corals i have in my nano are softies....

ya loh and now i am overrun by them... abit paranoid liao

[KingFish]

35Cents,

Presumably, the rotifers available locally are that of the 'L' strain, you can sieve rotifers using a commercial rotifer net (approx. 65 microns if I'm not wrong). They are sold at at one or two LFSs, but I understand they are out of stock as of 2 weeks ago.

While its not entirely undesirable to use the solution along with the rotifers, it may contain waste products which you may or may not want in the nano. Its always prudent to introduce just the feed and not the media itself.

I think the LIVE rotifers available at LFS these days are already enriched; presumably with the a good blend of the various strains of phytoplankton. Best you confirm that by reading the labels.

Gouldian,

Paper coffee filters are typically used for sieving BBS.

Unless there's a way to ascertain the micron size of one here, or determine if any rotifers are sieved from the solution, I can't tell for sure.

[35Cents]

Cheers to Rumor for the advise and information. Can you pm me which LFS selling the rotifer nets?

[35Cents]

Just uploading my new signature...

[Ancelot]

wow. Discordipinna genus has alot really interesting species! Love it! Guess they are gonna be the reasons for my return.

How i wish my Red Head is here with me. Then can show you all gobies' lovers!

Anyway glad that i see people growing to love gobies. Trust me you will be more willing to die for them than die for something else. lolx...

[Peter Schmiedel]

Hi @all

I was asked to add my thought to this thread - thx for that Basically all I know or have experienced with the two I keep has been said already.

I added them together and I hardly ever see them. They house in a tank 80x40x40 Centimer and share it with a pair of Signigobius biocellatus, 2x Trimma sp and 4x Trimma cana. Mine do share the same borrow. I could never observe any interaction with the other gobies. I also never sah them eating anything, but as I have them now for 6 month they must find enough food - but I did not see them growing yet.

Rudie Kuiter confirmed by mail that they live very very cryptic and avoid any open light. He thinks that the color pattern of the fins and the moving of the fins is ment to mesmerize the prey.

In general I think they are very interessting fish but should only be keep by real specialist who can give them a dedicated tank and dont worry if they dont see the gobies for weeks - but the price - at least here in Europe- is luckly high enough to avoid miss buying oi beginners.

Cheers from Belgium

Peter

[KingFish]

Hi Peter,

Welcome to the Singapore Reef Club.

Thanks for dropping by, and to the person who invited you over.

So it seems the gressingeri is more suited for low light specie-only tank, at the hands of experienced keepers.

We are also trying to pool our knowledge in an attempt to better understand and perhaps discern some gender specific physical characteristics and/or behavourial pattern. Since you have a pair sharing the same burrow, do you or Rudie have any input on that?

Thanks.

With Regards,

Rumor

[diabolus]

Hi @all

I was asked to add my thought to this thread - thx for that Basically all I know or have experienced with the two I keep has been said already.

I added them together and I hardly ever see them. They house in a tank 80x40x40 Centimer and share it with a pair of Signigobius biocellatus, 2x Trimma sp and 4x Trimma cana. Mine do share the same borrow. I could never observe any interaction with the other gobies. I also never sah them eating anything, but as I have them now for 6 month they must find enough food - but I did not see them growing yet.

Rudie Kuiter confirmed by mail that they live very very cryptic and avoid any open light. He thinks that the color pattern of the fins and the moving of the fins is ment to mesmerize the prey.

In general I think they are very interessting fish but should only be keep by real specialist who can give them a dedicated tank and dont worry if they dont see the gobies for weeks - but the price - at least here in Europe- is luckly high enough to avoid miss buying oi beginners.

Cheers from Belgium

Peter

hi peter,

glad to see you here, responding so fast to my request

I got mine at about 1.5cm and after less than 3 months, can see that its about 2cm now.

it hides for the 1st month or so, but have been showing itself very often lately. BTW, i'm only using a 11w PL for its tank.

hope that we can share our findings or watever knowledge on this wonderful fish together.

[gothia]

hi peter,

glad to see you here, responding so fast to my request

I got mine at about 1.5cm and after less than 3 months, can see that its about 2cm now.

it hides for the 1st month or so, but have been showing itself very often lately. BTW, i'm only using a 11w PL for its tank.

hope that we can share our findings or watever knowledge on this wonderful fish together.

how u measure ah?

anyway , very nice collection!!

[diabolus]

this goby is a bottom dwelling one, it does not actively swim ard, thus when it was still at ML, it was easy to pick up a ruler and just measure him thru the betta box.

his current size is by estimation. i just use the surrounding/corals that he is near to(in this case my 50 cents size ric) and got a rough guage.

[gothia]

this goby is a bottom dwelling one, it does not actively swim ard, thus when it was still at ML, it was easy to pick up a ruler and just measure him thru the betta box.

his current size is by estimation. i just use the surrounding/corals that he is near to(in this case my 50 cents size ric) and got a rough guage.

dun get me wrong..because i see it is very small..so wondering how to measure...

ic..actually it is in a betta box..

very nice fish!

[Terryz_]

Just what is the tank size that you all keep them in... Was thinking of 2ftx1.5ftx1.5ft tank with other eviota, trimma and small gobies... Possible?

[diabolus]

very possible!

i keep mine in a 1ft cube with 2 ###### shrimps and the camel goby.

shawncel keep his in a tank smaller than mine, with a upside down goby(trimma sp.) and a yashia goby/pistol shrimp pair.

35 cents keep his 3 griess in a 1.5 or 2 ft tank.

[Peter Schmiedel]

Hi @alll

thanks for the nice welcome! Is'nt it wonderfull how the web enables all of use the share our thoughts! This is the best grisi thread i ahve ever seen and I will post a link in my german forum

I received another answer from Rudie Kuiter (soon he will start on his goby book :D):

Quote:

I only ever seen them once in their (probably) typical habitat. Depth was about 12 m and lots of small boulders with algae and bryazoa growth on them. I could just grab these with one had whilst the camera in the other. There were several there, at least 4, maybe 6 individuals. To get to see them in the aquarium you may need to provide some small roundish rubble pieces, say 10 cm in diameter, and create overhangs about 25 mm high you can look into. Giving lots of hiding possibilities may actually give you the best chance.

The only other one I’ve seen diving was when using rotenone and one came floating out from amongst boulders about 30 to 40 cm in diameter that were covered by green algae on top. This was in about 15 m depth.

end quote

@35

is there an update on how your 3 are doing? The clip is amazing but shows a rather strong unexpected aggression. Guess that food competition determines the qty /tank we can keep. I can see on the posted pic's that some have the little notch in the dorsal spine. One of mine has the other does not. How is it with yours?

[Terryz_]

very possible!

i keep mine in a 1ft cube with 2 ###### shrimps and the camel goby.

shawncel keep his in a tank smaller than mine, with a upside down goby(trimma sp.) and a yashia goby/pistol shrimp pair.

35 cents keep his 3 griess in a 1.5 or 2 ft tank.

I was thinking whether will i see them anot... lol... because 2x1.5x1.5 seems quite big... lol...

[diabolus]

it couldn't be bigger than henry's tank rite?

and i still can see his 3 griess swimming happily everytime i go there.

[Terryz_]

got huh... why i never see one...

But very difficult to do henry that kind of scaping...

will faint ler... lol....

Anyone willing to post some full frontal tank view...

Thankz..

Terry

[Peter Schmiedel]

and i still can see his 3 griess swimming happily everytime i go there.

How the hell does he do that?? Soemtimes I dont see mine for weeks! Are there pic's from this tank available?

[diabolus]

How the hell does he do that?? Soemtimes I dont see mine for weeks! Are there pic's from this tank available?

peter,

henry is the owner of the LFS that brought in the griessingeri for us.

i will ask him to take a few pics of his tank and post here for you to see.

btw, how much do u guys paid for the griessingeri in Europe? I heard that it cost $150USD in the USA.

[35Cents]

@35

is there an update on how your 3 are doing? The clip is amazing but shows a rather strong unexpected aggression. Guess that food competition determines the qty /tank we can keep. I can see on the posted pic's that some have the little notch in the dorsal spine. One of mine has the other does not. How is it with yours?

Hi Peter, a big welcome to SRC.

Glad to have more griessingeri collectors around.

My griessies are fine... though Charlie (the smallest one... the first is Alpha, the biggest is Bravo... )had gone missing for a week after a minor rescape whereby I throw away a small rock... you can imagine my anxiety lol. Luckily it appeared last week to hunt.

By the notch on the dorsal fin, I assume you are talking about the small spilt on the fin. All 3 of them got it... in fact I think all of the griessingeries got it... just depends on your angle of view and also whether the griess wanted to stretch the fins or not.

FYI, my griessies are appearing almost everyday, usually a few hours before the lights goes off to hunt. I dun really think they are shy of light, but they are very sensitive to movement around them ... especially my presence... thus the only way to photograph them is to sit beside their crib area and wait... I can fully comprehend how difficult and fustrating it is for National Geographic photographers.

[35Cents]

btw, how much do u guys paid for the griessingeri in Europe? I heard that it cost $150USD in the USA.

In UK its £80 - £200 depending on the size, colour and availability. You can imagine my thrill when I return to Singapore... In S$ that's around S$240-S$600!

[Peter Schmiedel]

btw, how much do u guys paid for the griessingeri in Europe? I heard that it cost $150USD in the USA.

Hi,

thanks for the replie and good to know that your trio is fine. I really can imagine how you always looked at the little stone removed

Here the dealer price is about 120.- -150.- EUR - which is about less then the US $, but as I buy my stuff at the wholesalers ...

I thing I have to remove my signigobius biocellatus form the same tank to give them more peace. I did not see my small one since a while and as i had a nightly powercut for 6 hours (lost some unreplaceable fish - own catch from Ascenssion) it could be that I lost it too. Dont really expect it as it is normal for me not to see them regularly. I might have to add that I have currently almost 20 tanks running ... nuts? me ?? No just a bit :D