SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 I know this topic has been posted a few times.. But I think my electricity bill this month is OUTRAGEOUS! My house monthly bills range from $300-400. But this month, my mum got a shock when she received the bill! It rose up to $900!!! My 4ft X 2ft X 2.5ft tank can't possibly cost $500 a month to upkeep!! This is a list of the equipment I have. 1. Dymax EPH2000 - Chiller pump - as & when chiller kicks in 2. Atman 107 - Return pump - 24hrs 3. Via Aqua 2300 - Skimmer pump - 24hrs 4. Via Aqua 1300 - Wave maker - 24hrs 5. Atman MG D1200 - Lights 6. Resun CL650 - set at 26C. Specifications of MH Lights: 220-240V Blue tubes 24w X 4 Halide 150w X 2 Blue tubes: 9am - 6pm Halide: 6pm - 10pm Blue tubes: 9.45pm - 11pm So what on earth is going on?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member barnacle Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 $900!!??? wow!!! maybe u want to check with power supply... could be some error..... Quote My Tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hotlemond Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 cannot be la. my halide duration is same as yours, chiller same too, plus a power hungry skimmer pump and it rose as most $120 last month. This month is $100. you can use this to calculate Calculate_electricity_bill.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 That's why!! AARGGGHHH But I read alot of the previous posts on electricity bills and some of the people have brought up the matter to PUB. However, they usually end up having to pay the bill! ........................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 cannot be la. my halide duration is same as yours, chiller same too, plus a power hungry skimmer pump and it rose as most $120 last month. This month is $100. you can use this to calculate I used the calculator to calculate and it stated that my tank should only cost $80 a month! Then why the HUGE PUB bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidjazz Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 carl. . there must have been a mistake. Even i run two tanks only $480 a month. However, in order to cut ur bill, do change all ur atman/via-aqua pumps to the followings: 1) Aquabee (my first choice) 2) Eheim 3) Red dragon (only for the deeper pockets) 4) Aquamedic Basically, both eheim and aquabee are affordable. . in long term u save more $$. Quote 300 Gallon Reef Paradise 6X2.5X2.5 FT Tank : 4x2x2 ft sump : 2x1x2 ft refugim Skimmer: Deltec AP851 Calcium Reactor: Lightings: Aqualight T5 Retrofit, 150 watt MH X2 Chiller: Hailea HC-500A model w/ Aquabee 2000 Ozonizer: Hailea HLO-300 Digital ozonizer Wavemaker: Tunze 6080, Tunze 6060 Return Pumps: Aquabee 5000 x2 Other equipments: Aquabee 2000, Quietone 1200, 5L Co2 Cylinder w/ Dupla regulator American Marine Wireless Thermometer Reefing is a dedication, not a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidjazz Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Btw i recommend tunze products in comparison to Seio wavemakers. Eg. Tunze 6060 model - 6000litres/hr, 15 watt Seio1500 model, 6000litres/hr, 34 watt p.s. unless ur tank is 2ft or lps tank, tunze might be overpowered. Quote 300 Gallon Reef Paradise 6X2.5X2.5 FT Tank : 4x2x2 ft sump : 2x1x2 ft refugim Skimmer: Deltec AP851 Calcium Reactor: Lightings: Aqualight T5 Retrofit, 150 watt MH X2 Chiller: Hailea HC-500A model w/ Aquabee 2000 Ozonizer: Hailea HLO-300 Digital ozonizer Wavemaker: Tunze 6080, Tunze 6060 Return Pumps: Aquabee 5000 x2 Other equipments: Aquabee 2000, Quietone 1200, 5L Co2 Cylinder w/ Dupla regulator American Marine Wireless Thermometer Reefing is a dedication, not a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weileong Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Those low powered pumps should not make so great difference in the power comsumption. Maybe last month they took the real meter reading while the previous 6 months all estimates? Quote Weileong's 4ft tank Part I Weileong's 4ft tank Part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Those low powered pumps should not make so great difference in the power comsumption. Maybe last month they took the real meter reading while the previous 6 months all estimates? I got no idea... I need to sit down and compare all the past few months' bills now. Just got a rude shock when I saw the bill just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member andysho Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Mine also went up to 160 this month , so weird No sps , i cut down on light , pump etc Ending up the bill increase from 130 to 160 wat is happening sia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Basically, both eheim and aquabee are affordable. . in long term u save more $$. Think I got to go shopping for a pump this weekend. Many thanks for the advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Mine also went up to 160 this month , so weird No sps , i cut down on light , pump etc Ending up the bill increase from 130 to 160 wat is happening sia At least your bill went up by $30.. Mine went up by $500! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidjazz Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Think I got to go shopping for a pump this weekend. Many thanks for the advice! well, the atman 107 and via aqua have to go. Replace it with Aquabee or Eheim. bro weileong is right, i had the same experience also. . Quote 300 Gallon Reef Paradise 6X2.5X2.5 FT Tank : 4x2x2 ft sump : 2x1x2 ft refugim Skimmer: Deltec AP851 Calcium Reactor: Lightings: Aqualight T5 Retrofit, 150 watt MH X2 Chiller: Hailea HC-500A model w/ Aquabee 2000 Ozonizer: Hailea HLO-300 Digital ozonizer Wavemaker: Tunze 6080, Tunze 6060 Return Pumps: Aquabee 5000 x2 Other equipments: Aquabee 2000, Quietone 1200, 5L Co2 Cylinder w/ Dupla regulator American Marine Wireless Thermometer Reefing is a dedication, not a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidjazz Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 By the way, this is how it works. High wattage pumps generate more heat >> therefore chiller have to kick in more often and work harder >> higher electricity bills! Quote 300 Gallon Reef Paradise 6X2.5X2.5 FT Tank : 4x2x2 ft sump : 2x1x2 ft refugim Skimmer: Deltec AP851 Calcium Reactor: Lightings: Aqualight T5 Retrofit, 150 watt MH X2 Chiller: Hailea HC-500A model w/ Aquabee 2000 Ozonizer: Hailea HLO-300 Digital ozonizer Wavemaker: Tunze 6080, Tunze 6060 Return Pumps: Aquabee 5000 x2 Other equipments: Aquabee 2000, Quietone 1200, 5L Co2 Cylinder w/ Dupla regulator American Marine Wireless Thermometer Reefing is a dedication, not a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Will call PUB tmrw to confirm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member fishtalk1517 Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Alamak.... think my Jaws dropped when I sasw yr elect bill.... Better to call up to check it out. But sometimes estimated bills are apssed down to consumers due to estimation of power consumption By should u be overcharged for it, they will back credit the balance amt to ur electricity acc for the next mnth deduction. So meanwhile think they will still ask u to pay the full amt. Quote A person, himself can be his own Lawyer, but he can never be his own Judge ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member bigbird Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 bro, call Pub no use one, my monthly $200- $250, 3 of us in my family, me, my wife and son, 1 6x2x2.5 tank w/o chiller fish only tank and a 4x2x2.5 with 150 watts MH and teco RA680, my bill for sept rose up to $419. I call up PUB and they told me to monitor the meter reading, i told them july to august only me and my son were at home and did not even switch on the aircon, only spent fm 1900h to 0800h at home (my wife doing her confinement at in law place) It was SHOCK $419 for a 4 room flat and only me and my son. No choice they are the king for electric supply. If next month bill still like that no need to go farm liao not even buy a blue damsel. Just imagine this month you pay $900 then next few month you have to pay $700+ to $800+ can die one. Patrol price up, GST 5%, Pub bill up, ERP but no pay raise to suit the ups Quote ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of my favourite fish only. Give me one more chance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Eric Posted September 8, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 bro, call Pub no use one, my monthly $200- $250, 3 of us in my family, me, my wife and son, 1 6x2x2.5 tank w/o chiller fish only tank and a 4x2x2.5 with 150 watts MH and teco RA680, my bill for sept rose up to $419. I call up PUB and they told me to monitor the meter reading, i told them july to august only me and my son were at home and did not even switch on the aircon, only spent fm 1900h to 0800h at home (my wife doing her confinement at in law place) It was SHOCK $419 for a 4 room flat and only me and my son. No choice they are the king for electric supply. If next month bill still like that no need to go farm liao not even buy a blue damsel. Just imagine this month you pay $900 then next few month you have to pay $700+ to $800+ can die one. Patrol price up, GST 5%, Pub bill up, ERP but no pay raise to suit the ups Welcome to Singapore................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 8, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 8, 2005 Think I'm desperate already. At least got to call PUB and get an explanation for this sudden rise in the bill! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seafood Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Check your electrical meter value and deduct your previous month data indicated in the bill. Based on the total usage (in kwh), can do a simple calculation to check if the bill is correct. However $900 is simply ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kareen Posted September 9, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 9, 2005 u might find this useful to cal your electricity consumption.... E_bill.txt Quote Greeting Tank: 4' by 2' by 2' (CR antique) Sump: 3' include 1' refuigm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member kareen Posted September 9, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 9, 2005 I got problem uploading this file when the extension is .xls so I rename it to .txt. This file is in excel format. Hope this helps. Quote Greeting Tank: 4' by 2' by 2' (CR antique) Sump: 3' include 1' refuigm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member cityofangels Posted September 9, 2005 Author SRC Member Share Posted September 9, 2005 u might find this useful to cal your electricity consumption.... Thanks Kareen! But hotlemond also uploaded the file and I tried it.. It still does not explain the extra $500 in the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member absolut_vodka Posted September 10, 2005 SRC Member Share Posted September 10, 2005 i'm running a 4ft tank plus a 2 ft tank. my electrical bill increase by $100 on average after that. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyseow Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 submit ur meter readings every month on the 10th over the phone to SP Services enable to prevent over estimations.Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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