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rowa is enough. no need to use 2

if you got sensitive fish, stick with rowa

If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless.

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I like ROWA. I use stocking to hold the stuff and tie it up. Makes changing a breeze...

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How can you compare ROWA to GoodBye PO4, both work on completely different principles. Rowa is like a PO4 sponge were Goodbye is an exporter.

You should compare Korallin PO4 Minus to Goodbye and Rowa to Seachem PhosGuard or something like that...

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anyone can share some infor for this 2 product? which is better and which is more cost saving?

i now using both together, but is it needed?

Hi, Kenny, Since u r using both. Pls find info below some from web and some from my understanding.. For me I am using Rowa only. :) Hope it helps..

goodbye! PO4 is a liquid phosphate remover which operates hand in hand with a protein skimmer or a mechanical filter. It works by binding active phosphate molecules, turning them into inert particulates which become unusable for further biological processes. That means it is unavailable as a nutrient for algae growth and will not affect corals well being. The particulate suspension is subsequently removed from the aquarium system by protein skimming and/or through the mechanical filter.

RowaPhos (aluminium oxide) is a unique man made ferric hydroxide material specifically produced for efficient removal of phosphates, arsenic and silicates from fresh and salt water, below r my understanding on how the working principle via Phosphoric dissociation following by oxidation reduction process. eventually turn product into harmless iron phosphate form.

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Hi, Kenny, Since u r using both. Pls find info below some from web and some from my understanding.. For me I am using Rowa only. :) Hope it helps.. goodbye! PO4 is a liquid phosphate remover which operates hand in hand with a protein skimmer or a mechanical filter. It works by binding active phosphate molecules, turning them into inert particulates which become unusable for further biological processes. That means it is unavailable as a nutrient for algae growth and will not affect corals well being. The particulate suspension is subsequently removed from the aquarium system by protein skimming and/or through the mechanical filter. RowaPhos (aluminium oxide) is a unique man made ferric hydroxide material specifically produced for efficient removal of phosphates, arsenic and silicates from fresh and salt water, below r my understanding on how the working principle via Phosphoric dissociation following by oxidation reduction process. eventually turn product into harmless iron phosphate form. Cheers...

Rowaphos is ferric (iron) hydroxide. Phosguard is aluminium oxide. Liquid phosphate remover is Lanthanum Chloride.

Rowaphos is more commonly used due to the non-leeching of aluminium, leeching of iron is usually harmless. ferric oxide has the lowest rate of removal of phosphate and silicate, it has a longer service lifespan as it takes time for it to reach its capacity due to the slower rate of removal of phosphate.

Phosguard has a higher rate of phosphate removal, hence the need to follow instructions strictly. It has a shorter service lifespan. It may leech some aluminium.

Liquid phosphate remover has been long used by aquaculture/public aquarium, water treatment and swimming pool industry to remove phosphate. It has the quickest rate of phosphate removal. It has the shortest service lifespan (almost immediate to a few seconds, depending on circulation rate). It is very cost effective for large volume. A mechanical filtration is required (<10 micron mesh) to remove the particulate from the water. Some corals/ fishes are sensitive to the particulate. It is used on very large volumes of water due to its cost effectiveness. For small water volumes, overdose is easily a real risk. There is no scientific evidence on the positive/negative side effects of overdose of Lanthanum Chloride on corals and fishes. Anecdotal evidence suggests that corals and fishes may be affected from the overdose. Overdose will result in extreme rates of removal of phosphate to near non-existing levels. This can result in stress to the corals. Use of liquid phosphate removal is strongly encouraged to be accompanied by phosphate monitoring with a highly sensitive test method as it can easily and rapidly bring down phosphate levels to extremely low levels. Most users would overdose liquid phosphate remover easily due to its low costs, rapid rate of action and the lack of access to high resolution/sensitivity test methods.

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Hi, Kenny, Since u r using both. Pls find info below some from web and some from my understanding.. For me I am using Rowa only. smile.gif Hope it helps..

goodbye! PO4 is a liquid phosphate remover which operates hand in hand with a protein skimmer or a mechanical filter. It works by binding active phosphate molecules, turning them into inert particulates which become unusable for further biological processes. That means it is unavailable as a nutrient for algae growth and will not affect corals well being. The particulate suspension is subsequently removed from the aquarium system by protein skimming and/or through the mechanical filter.

RowaPhos (aluminium oxide) is a unique man made ferric hydroxide material specifically produced for efficient removal of phosphates, arsenic and silicates from fresh and salt water, below r my understanding on how the working principle via Phosphoric dissociation following by oxidation reduction process. eventually turn product into harmless iron phosphate form.

Cheers...

Just notice typo on my header. Shld be Iron Oxide Hydroxide rather than aluminium oxide.

I am not sure what is inside goodbye PO4.. Better check.. Not all Liquid phosphate remover is Lanthanum Chloride certain product could be iron base liquid.

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Just notice typo on my header. Shld be Iron Oxide Hydroxide rather than aluminium oxide.

I am not sure what is inside goodbye PO4.. Better check.. Not all Liquid phosphate remover is Lanthanum Chloride certain product could be iron base liquid.

Cheers

What's the point of liquid iron based remover when there's no way to export it?

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What's the point of liquid iron based remover when there's no way to export it?

I mean when u reply Lanthanum Chloride on Goodbye PO4 post. and I need to clarify I am not sure what is the active ingredient inside.

Why no way to export? Skimmer and many others reactor/waste isolator device in the market can help the job done.

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I mean when u reply Lanthanum Chloride on Goodbye PO4 post. and I need to clarify I am not sure what is the active ingredient inside.

Why no way to export? Skimmer and many others reactor/waste isolator device in the market can help the job done.

Cheers.

The phosphate is particulate-d out. Skimmers have limited capacity in removing of such particulates. It is highly recommended to have a fine mechanical filtration when using such products.

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Rowaphos tested & proven super effective when use in a FR. Totally wipe out all the hair algaes with 24hrs.

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Rowaphos tested & proven super effective when use in a FR. Totally wipe out all the hair algaes with 24hrs.

Agreed... Cyano gone within 3 days.....

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