megacue Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Best to get a auto top up. Evaporation quite high for that surface area. Small sump can't hold much reserve water on your return pump. Just my 2cent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted April 28, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 28, 2013 @KELVINx3 indeed! cant wait for rocks and sand to go in.. hopefully can be done by tomorrow! @megacue ATO need another tank to hold the water right? no extra space liao leh.. Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member KELVINx3 Posted April 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted April 28, 2013 manually everyday 1 litre of water hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Firestarter Posted April 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted April 28, 2013 I would have got a new cabinet if I were you, a sump like that would be really troublesome in the long run. cabinet looks weak but it should be able to hold a shallow tank. Are you going to decom your cube tank? Quote Sometimes the good guys gotta do bad things to make the bad guys pay. - Harvey Specter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted April 28, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted April 28, 2013 Freshwater cabinet are not meant to withstand the weight of saltwater tank. From the front view, the cabinet thickness is way too thin. Take a look ard reefers tanks and see how thick their support beam is. Also not sure if your cabinet wood can tahan saltwater bo. Since everything is not set up, why not do a proper tank cabinet. When u fully stock up your tank, it will not be fun anymore when your whole tank come crashing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Firestarter Posted April 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted April 29, 2013 Freshwater cabinet are not meant to withstand the weight of saltwater tank. From the front view, the cabinet thickness is way too thin. Take a look ard reefers tanks and see how thick their support beam is. Also not sure if your cabinet wood can tahan saltwater bo. Since everything is not set up, why not do a proper tank cabinet. When u fully stock up your tank, it will not be fun anymore when your whole tank come crashing down. Fully agreed. Well said. But I'm gonna bet that he wont do anything about it. Quote Sometimes the good guys gotta do bad things to make the bad guys pay. - Harvey Specter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justrc Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Fully agreed. Well said. But I'm gonna bet that he wont do anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee123 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I think we should leave the TS to decide on what kind of set up he wants. It's good that alot of bros mentioned about the cabinet. But then again let's not make any sweeping statements and appreciate the buildup of his tank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted April 29, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 29, 2013 Thanks guys for your input about the cabinet.. i've pondered about it before too. If given the chance, i would've changed to a new cabinet. I know saltwater is heavier than freshwater. after searching through the internet, i gathered that salt water weighs more than freshwater by 2.5%.. i have no idea how true is this.. My previous set up was a 400L freshwater + equiments (20kg OHF, 15kg sand, rock, wood) total around 435kg. not calculating the 2 salt water tank (total about 70kg) i am running in the cabinet This current set up is a 230L saltwater + Rocks and sand (30kg rock, 20kg sand). If its true at 2.5% heavier, 230L works out to be around 236kg... with the rock and sand it will be around 290kg (not calculating the water volume reduced when rock and sand goes in) if saltwater turns to out be more than 2.5% heavier.. i don't think it will exceed 400kg of freshwater.. partly i went for such a shallow tank was to reduce the amount of volume too.. im sure this cabinet cannot tahan a 4x2x2ft saltwater volume. i've also called up qian hu regarding the cabinet and they told me its safe.. i believe they have a marine tank running a similar cabinet... Once again, thanks to those who commented on the cabinet... i know its not 100% confirm to be safe but i guess i will have to take the risk.. since its already set up, edit : yes, the 34L cube tank will be decommed Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member nicreef Posted April 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted April 29, 2013 nice bro. been waiting for your post hope i will get mine started soon. been busy right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted April 29, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 29, 2013 nice bro. been waiting for your post hope i will get mine started soon. been busy right now. Thanks bro! do remember to post Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted April 29, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 29, 2013 Mixed salt with existing DI water in tank and 25kg of rocks went in.. no idea how to scape it so i just placed it as per previous planned scape.. seems like its totally different.. probably will have to play around for the moment. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-04-29215722_zps04d5d6d2.jpg.html'> http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-04-29215854_zps7f88fc35.jpg.html'> Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member KELVINx3 Posted April 29, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted April 29, 2013 beautiful! camping for updates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiraltian Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Scape look ok. Just need to make sure no dead spots and enough flow. Can just add more wavemakers later on. Quote Display Tank : 36" x 20" x 20" Herbie overflow box design, Sump : 36" x 21" x 17", Frag Tank : 16” x 20” x 16”, custom built by Tank Culture. Lightings : Ecotech Radion XR15 Pro x 2 for Main Display Tank, Inled R80 x 1 for Frag Tank. Chiller : Dalkin 1hp compressor with build-in drop coil. Skimmer : Skimz Octa SC205i Protein Skimmer. FR : H2Ocean FMR75 Fluidised Media Reactor with Hailea HX-2500 (Feeder Pump) running Rowaphos. CR : Skimz Monzter E Series CM122 Calcium Reactor. BPR: Marine Source Biopellet Reactor with Continuum Reef Biopellet Fuel. Main Return Pump : SICCE Syncra ADV 9.0 & Jebao ACQ-10000 Water Pump. Wavemaker : Jebao MOW-9 x2 for Main Display Tank & Jebao SLW-20M Sine Wave Pump for Frag Tank. Water Top Up: AutoAqua Smart ATO Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakkite Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Mixed salt with existing DI water in tank and 25kg of rocks went in.. no idea how to scape it so i just placed it as per previous planned scape.. seems like its totally different.. probably will have to play around for the moment. Hi bro, nice tank. Btw, how's the overflow returning back sump working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted April 30, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted April 30, 2013 beautiful! camping for updates! Thanks! Scape look ok. Just need to make sure no dead spots and enough flow. Can just add more wavemakers later on. most part of the rocks are not touching the base.. should be having a good flow throughout the whole tank.. Hi bro, nice tank. Btw, how's the overflow returning back sump working? Thanks bro, overflow working great! Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAME_hawk Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 cool looking tank bro if get clams would be very nice as can view from top easily 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 1, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 1, 2013 cool looking tank bro if get clams would be very nice as can view from top easily thanks! will certainly get one next time Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 1, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 1, 2013 Updates : up and running for 2 days already. transferred all live rocks, corals and fishes to this current set up. Since its using cured live rock so should be fine.. so far fishes are eating and corals are opening just as usual.. Been dosing Microbe-lift Niteout-2 daily to provide bacterial.. Deltec MCE 600 producing some awesome loads of bubbles but only clear skimmate now probably due to the low bioload! loving the Carib-sea Special Grade reef sand! perfect grain size. top view.. can easily view corals just have to press the feed button on my wp40. shifted my sump and overflow box to the right as its generating too much noise to the corridor. Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reef garden Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Bro, Unlike a 1 feet cube tank, the flow in a large tank is extremely important to corals. Generally speaking, adequate flow has been documented to improve coral growth and health and polyps extension etc because the currents facilitate gaseous exchange, wastes removal and deliver food and nutrients to them. When I saw your initial setup where the overflow and wave maker were on the left, I was concerned that the flow around the right area would likely be very bad with lots of dead zones. Now that you shifted the overflow to the right, it improves the flow by pushing water from the left to the right. However, I'm not certain that the single wave maker is powerful enough to drive all the water along the entire length to the overflow side. I suggest you relook at how the flow can be improved eg. put overflow in center and add another wave maker on right so that water is circulated from both directions towards the center. You will find nuisance algae eg. Cyanobacteria, growth occurs most often in dead zones and low flow areas. Just my humble opinion for your consideration. By the way, I love your setup, scape and lights and can't wait to see the final product. Quote Aquarium 3 - 250 liters with sump and refugium Jebao DC 6000 pump with speed controller Skimz skimmer AI Hydra 52 HD Hailea HS-66A (1/4 hp) chiller Maxspect Gyre TLF Phosban reactors with Phosban Tunze nano osmolator Marine Magic Triplet Dosing Aquarium 1 - 27 litres Atman HF-0600 HOB filter Maxspect Razor Nano 60W (10,000 K) AOL 60 litres chiller Tunze Nano Osmolator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 2, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 2, 2013 Thanks a lot for ur advice regarding flow bro. I appreciate it alot. I understand what you meant and the single wp40 is probably overkill but I might add another smaller wave maker to push towards the rocks at the back to ensure no dead spots. Still finding the sweet spot to place the wake makers now.. Previously both overflow box and wave maker on the same side cause haven settle the plugs so all put one wide first. Thanks bro. I can't wait too! Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 2, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 2, 2013 i took ammonia and nitrite reading yesterday and it was 0.25 and 0 respectively. Took some readings today : API : pH : 8.2 Ammonia : 0 Nitrite : 0 Salifert : Nitrate: 0.2 (using the low range reading method) Phosphate: 0 kH: 9.6 SG : 1.025 currently running 100ml of rowaphos in TLF phosban 150, gonna get another TLF and join them together running biopellets after i add in livestocks. seems like my cycle is done? probably because im using my old LR and also cured LR from reefer. Stopped my skimmer since bioload is so low. added a bag of Biohome too. 2 pics to show.. my super cute bi-color blenny! eats anything.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-02202430_zps5c62c49f.jpg.html'> blue stardust frag.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-02202500_zps7317b683.jpg.html'> Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member ReefzLover Posted May 2, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 2, 2013 Nice rocks and scaping ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 2, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 2, 2013 thanks bro Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 7, 2013 Author SRC Member Share Posted May 7, 2013 Update: new corals addition.. corals and fishes are doing very well.. been doing Microbe-lift Nite-out II daily and also Red Sea Reef Energy A & B (2.5ml daily). probably will give grotech line a try after my red sea finishes. Some corals pics : pink tip elegance. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201251_zps3a437524.jpg.html'> zoas http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201246_zps5436fa50.jpg.html'> green Brain coral.. this particular piece had become everyone's favorite coral with its bright luminous color! getting a red one soon! http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201237_zps20a16146.jpg.html'> New addition added just one hour after placing in tank.. Yellow Lobo.. adds a spark of yellow to my tank! http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/DSC03099-1_zpsa57472e0.jpg.html'> GSP glued to overflow box.. hopefully will spread fast and cover the whole box! http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201422_zps67040676.jpg.html'> Got this birdnest from a kind reefer when i bought his elegance, he fragged most part away so trying my luck with the remaining ones. doing pretty well with nice PE.. hopefully its color will retain.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/DSC03122_zpsbab2e54c.jpg.html'> top view http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201534_zpsa111206d.jpg.html'> Livestock! Banggai Cardinal.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201456_zpsc9d41f28.jpg.html'> my mandarin from my old 34L.. much more pods for him! http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201517_zpsb83d7447.jpg.html'> Got 2 of this lovely tuxedo urchins! superb at eating brown algae (which is currently blooming in my tank) however its been attaching to some of my zoas frag and carrying them around.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201445_zps2a0ab262.jpg.html'> My sump tank.. Deltec MCE 600 (great skimmer) on the left, eheim 1260, Rio pump (chiller and 2 TLF 150 reactor feeder pump). Currently only running rowaphos.. will be running biopellets once more livestocks go in.. chaeto in a breeder's net but im thinking of DIY-ing a partition using eggcrates. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201711_zps26be5a06.jpg.html'> FTS. added a SunSun 3000l/hr wavemaker blowing at the back.. thinking of changing to 5000l/hr model instead.. still waiting for my universal laptop adapter to come so i can run W1 or ELSE mode on my wp40 at lower flow.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/DSC03082_zpsc4cdf04d.jpg.html'> angle view http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/DSC03089_zps849a5d10.jpg.html'> Light is currently 10" above water level.. running 9 hours but mainly the blues and some white. rest of the whites only comes on for 2 hours a day now.. worried my corals may bleach. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/2013-05-07201409_zps841a4417.jpg.html'> simply switch on feed mode on my wp40 and enjoy the top view.. http://s961.photobucket.com/user/fissiden/media/DSC03096_zps2c6f0abe.jpg.html'> Thanks for viewing! Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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