SRC Member IshDeOne Posted October 31, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted October 31, 2014 Wow! Such a neat sump n effort to document each detail.. Camping here to see ur progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 1, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2014 The Apex Neptune energy bar came with a Euro plug - really dislike it when products come with Euro plugs. They usually don't get grounded when using the typical multi plugs. Alternative is to cut the cable to change to a regular 3 pin. I found a Euro adapter at Sim Lim Sq 3rd floor - UF Technologies Finally wired up the Apex Neptune I got a Bubble Magnus probe holder from DE Aquatic & found that it does not fit the temperature probe of the Apex. The probe was barely 0.5mm too large. Had to file the hole a little bigger to accommodate it. It was OK for the pH probe. It was OK for the Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 1, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2014 Since I'm using a Skimz overflow box, I figured I better some redundancy in place in case the display tank overflow. Added a float switch next to the overflow box connected to the Apex such that when the water level rises near the brim, it cuts off the return pump. Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 1, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2014 Tank cycling has been about 1 week with the market prawn still decomposing in the tank. Ammonia - 0ppm Nitrite - 0 or 0.25ppm (not so clear with the API kit) Nitrate - 25ppm (steadily climbing over the past days). Tested with API kit as well - somewhat similar readings. Phosphate - 0.5ppm I guess I should let it cycle another week? Time to set up the refugium with micro algae & Rowaphos? Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomeoJuliet Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 On 11/1/2014 at 6:20 PM, SubzeroLT said: Tank cycling has been about 1 week with the market prawn still decomposing in the tank. Ammonia - 0ppm Nitrite - 0 or 0.25ppm (not so clear with the API kit) Nitrate - 25ppm (steadily climbing over the past days). Tested with API kit as well - somewhat similar readings. Phosphate - 0.5ppm I guess I should let it cycle another week? Time to set up the refugium with micro algae & Rowaphos? Bro, Refugim is very good for tanks . Do have it set up if possible . Not necessary to run rowaphos , rather u run the bio pellets instead . Quote Main Tank: 93 Gallon Cube TankSkimmer: Deltec SC 1455, Skimz Mini SN143Chiller: Arctica DBA-075Lightings: AI Hydra 52 x 02 Wavemaker: Vortech mp-40 x 02, Tunze 6020Dosing Pump: Jebao with Grotech ABC,123 & MagReturn Pump: Deltec H20cean 5000Reactor: Biopellets with FR & Deltec H20cean 2000 FR: Skimz BR80 Supplements: Seachem Reef Builder, Seachem Calcium, Seachem Magnesium, Seachem Kalkwassar, Seachem Iodine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 1, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2014 Bro, Refugim is very good for tanks . Do have it set up if possible . Not necessary to run rowaphos , rather u run the bio pellets instead . Thanks for the tip. Bio Pellets are supposed to remove both Nitrate & Phosphate right? And Rowaphos is only removes phosphates. Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member asg Posted November 1, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted November 1, 2014 Remember to do a bit of WC Quote 子非鱼,焉知鱼之乐... (you are not the fish so you...) Then: my 4FT low tech selling off tank... (2006) Now: (2014) @Sept 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Clement Chen Posted November 1, 2014 SRC Member Share Posted November 1, 2014 Thanks for the tip. Bio Pellets are supposed to remove both Nitrate & Phosphate right? And Rowaphos is only removes phosphates. Bio pellets only remove nitrate unless u get the all in one biopellets. Can run both rowa and biopellets in separate reactors Quote Clem's Clam Corner (Decommed) 60cm x 40cm x 30cm Tank Nano tank reboot v2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennan Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Bro, where do you get the grey color box to cover your apex Neptune cable? Thanks in advance Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiraltian Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Very neat cabling and trunking. Quote Display Tank : 36" x 20" x 20" Herbie overflow box design, Sump : 36" x 21" x 17", Frag Tank : 16” x 20” x 16”, custom built by Tank Culture. Lightings : Ecotech Radion XR15 Pro x 2 for Main Display Tank, Inled R80 x 1 for Frag Tank. Chiller : Dalkin 1hp compressor with build-in drop coil. Skimmer : Skimz Octa SC205i Protein Skimmer. FR : H2Ocean FMR75 Fluidised Media Reactor with Hailea HX-2500 (Feeder Pump) running Rowaphos. CR : Skimz Monzter E Series CM122 Calcium Reactor. BPR: Marine Source Biopellet Reactor with Continuum Reef Biopellet Fuel. Main Return Pump : SICCE Syncra ADV 9.0 & Jebao ACQ-10000 Water Pump. Wavemaker : Jebao MOW-9 x2 for Main Display Tank & Jebao SLW-20M Sine Wave Pump for Frag Tank. Water Top Up: AutoAqua Smart ATO Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofubox Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Good idea to place that float switch! Quote I Love Stagsss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 1, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 1, 2014 On 11/1/2014 at 9:58 PM, hennan said: Bro, where do you get the grey color box to cover your apex Neptune cable? Thanks in advance Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk These are regular electrical trunking found at neighborhood hardware shops. For mine, i got them at Clementi avenue 2 (near Marine Life) Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thanks Bro. I just want to exchange some pointer about the float switch next to your overflow box connected to the Apex. Won't it better to flip it till you have a OPEN status for normal water level and CLOSED status when water level rises near the brim then cuts off the return pump? The reason is you always want CLOSED = turn off, OPEN = turn on, cause If a switch gets disconnected, the wire gets loose, the wire breaks, etc, the switch will read OPEN. Is it better? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 2, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2014 Thanks Bro. I just want to exchange some pointer about the float switch next to your overflow box connected to the Apex. Won't it better to flip it till you have a OPEN status for normal water level and CLOSED status when water level rises near the brim then cuts off the return pump? The reason is you always want CLOSED = turn off, OPEN = turn on, cause If a switch gets disconnected, the wire gets loose, the wire breaks, etc, the switch will read OPEN. Is it better? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've set the Apex for this float switch as : Fallback ON OSC 005:00/005:00/005:00 Then ON If FeedA 005 Then OFF If Sw5 OPEN Then OFF If Sw5 CLOSED Then ON Hence if its open (either cable is disconnected or water level rises), the return pump will shut off. But thanks for the pointer....i'll need to think & experiment what you mentioned. See if i missed something out. Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Is the above scripts for your returnPump? My example returnPump will be like below: For returnPump; Set ON Fallback ON If FeedA 005 Then OFF If Sw5 OPEN Then OFF Defer 005:000 Then ON Cause I want my returnPump to be ON everytime unless there is a feeding or water rises near the brim at overflow box Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickLim Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 On 11/1/2014 at 6:12 PM, SubzeroLT said: Since I'm using a Skimz overflow box, I figured I better some redundancy in place in case the display tank overflow. Added a float switch next to the overflow box connected to the Apex such that when the water level rises near the brim, it cuts off the return pump. Bro, did u use the virtual Outlet to control your overflow status? If not, your pump will just keep turning on and off if the overflow is blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickLim Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Is the above scripts for your returnPump? My example returnPump will be like below: For returnPump; Set ON Fallback ON If FeedA 005 Then OFF If Sw5 OPEN Then OFF Defer 005:000 Then ON Cause I want my returnPump to be ON everytime unless there is a feeding or water rises near the brim at overflow box Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk U might want to refer to page 138 of the Apex comprehensive manual. A safer way to control an overflow situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bro are u referring to this: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickLim Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bro are u referring to this: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes. I am using this script. Works well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hennan Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ok Derrick. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 2, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bro, did u use the virtual Outlet to control your overflow status? If not, your pump will just keep turning on and off if the overflow is blocked. No i'm not using a virtual outlet (not familiar with it yet) ...need more reading up. Need to try it This is what i'm doing now : 1) The Skimz overflow has 2 drain pipes. 1 using a siphon, the other is straight exit downwards. 2) I also have an aqua lifter pulling air out of the overflow box in case the siphon is broken. Hopefully this will minimize siphon issues. Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 2, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2014 Set up the refugium today. Used a 36cm Up Aqua Z freshwater lights. I wanted the light to sit just above the sump to optimize space as I plan to put something above the lights. Discarded the light's original plastic holders which would make the lights sit higher up. Inserted some wire to straddle the light over the 40cm wide sump. Some CaribSea Mineral mud & very fine sand as per Caribsea instructions. And installed reactors for Bio Pellet & Rowaphos. ** Thanks Thomas, for the chaeto This is my setup/notes. Feedback welcome. I placed the reactors higher up as I wanted to maximize the volume of the sump available for water. Egg crates could not hold the weight. Using an old chopping board for now. Connection wise : Outlet of the Bio Pellet FR (high flow needed to tumble) is split - One tube to the TLF/Rowaphos reactor (lower flow). The other tube carries the remaining output of the Bio Pellet reactor back to the sump near the skimmer. The Jebao 6000 pump is currently running at 70% power with plenty of flow to power the reactors & display tank return. The sump is cramp & messy now. Its gonna be hard to get to the filter sock now. Personally, I felt that the Jebao6000 pump seems a little 'noisy'. There is a light humming sound. I read of eheim return pumps being totally silent. I wonder how it compares between the 2. 1 more market prawn added to the display tank. Cycling continues. Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomeoJuliet Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bro, I hope your refugim starts growing some copepods and brittle starfish. As for the pumps, Eheim is reliable and quiet but not controllable. Will you be adding any more equipments to the tank? Quote Main Tank: 93 Gallon Cube TankSkimmer: Deltec SC 1455, Skimz Mini SN143Chiller: Arctica DBA-075Lightings: AI Hydra 52 x 02 Wavemaker: Vortech mp-40 x 02, Tunze 6020Dosing Pump: Jebao with Grotech ABC,123 & MagReturn Pump: Deltec H20cean 5000Reactor: Biopellets with FR & Deltec H20cean 2000 FR: Skimz BR80 Supplements: Seachem Reef Builder, Seachem Calcium, Seachem Magnesium, Seachem Kalkwassar, Seachem Iodine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Koh Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Love how clean your sump looks Bro .. If u trying to create a deep sand bed in your refuge .. I dun think it's deep enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Supporter SubzeroLT Posted November 2, 2014 Author SRC Supporter Share Posted November 2, 2014 Bro, I hope your refugim starts growing some copepods and brittle starfish. As for the pumps, Eheim is reliable and quiet but not controllable. Will you be adding any more equipments to the tank? I still have a dosing pump to set up & perhaps a carbon reactor if necessary. I've ordered more float switches from eBay - for ATO. That should be it. Any other suggestions? Quote Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/mysliceofnature/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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