jythong Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Can anyone tell me what is the differences in pricing between the various types of black clownfish? I believe that the Australian black ocellaris are more expensive, maybe $30 and above. I do see black clownfishes being sold that have yellow faces and fins: these seem to be cheaper. Are they percs? Do the faces turn black when they mature? Thanks in advance for the answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 bro, there are few types of clown fish....even for the same kind, got misbar, teardrop, etc. For pure black ocellaris, only black and white.....but some might have orange face as the colour change may not be complete. Those with yellow are likely to be saddle back or other type of clown..... u need to go farm more often....lol Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jythong Posted February 3, 2010 Author Share Posted February 3, 2010 u need to go farm more often....lol Actually have been going to farms/shops almost twice a week, but no sifu like you to guide me ... So the pure black and white ones that are more expensive are probably from Australia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member pokmingsheng Posted February 3, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 3, 2010 these are the black ocellaris clownfishes.. market price around 4-5 red notes per fish.. this next one is the Clark's Clownfish, this is the cheaper one in terms of price.. hope pictures might help visually Quote My Decomissioned 2ft Cube: (31st March 2011) Carpe Diem~!!! My Current 4ft X 2ft X 2ft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member lawchan77 Posted February 3, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 3, 2010 i have the same queries as jythong... i have seen black ocellaris (not clark's clownfish) with orange tip on the face, and other black ocellaris with black face (so black cant even see the eyes). u can see the 2 kinds in iwarna now.. they are breeding several pairs of black ocellaris ... most are selling at $40 ~ $50, sometimes $80 per pc if they come from australia. i even saw CF selling a pair for $1k+ (they had orange face) i am wondering if they are several species of the black ocellaris? some with jet black face and others with orange face? or issit just a matter of age / different origin? or they have orange face when younger and will eventually turn jet black as they mature? Quote (click to see my tank thread) Skimmer : Deltec SC2560 Chiller : Sanyo 1HP Compressor with copper coil Lighting : Ecotech Radion XR30w x 3 + 5 ft ATI power module 4 tubes Dosing - Bubble magnus 7 channel Main pump - reef octopus 7000 FR : Skimz phosphate reactor + FR45 Biopellet reactor Wavemaker - Vortech 3X MP40W + 1 x sun sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member LaW Posted February 3, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 3, 2010 i have the same queries as jythong... i have seen black ocellaris (not clark's clownfish) with orange tip on the face, and other black ocellaris with black face (so black cant even see the eyes). u can see the 2 kinds in iwarna now.. they are breeding several pairs of black ocellaris ... most are selling at $40 ~ $50, sometimes $80 per pc if they come from australia. i even saw CF selling a pair for $1k+ (they had orange face) i am wondering if they are several species of the black ocellaris? some with jet black face and others with orange face? or issit just a matter of age / different origin? or they have orange face when younger and will eventually turn jet black as they mature? i believe its of the same origin, australia, but might be breeded from different location. its a matter of time, normally few mouths for them to reach nice black from orange/dull orange/brown (juv). but not all will have their lips turned full black as far as i know. Quote If a man could beat his own fantasy. Then to only breed in captivity. Then its pointless. Genesis 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. || Tank: 78" x 30" x 30" || Sump: 48" x 22" x 20" || Lights: PowerModule 10 X 80W|| Returns: 2 x HF32 || || Skimmer: BubbleKing Supermarin 300 || Wavemaker: 3 x 6100 & 1 x 6200, 2 x Wavebox 6212, WavySea || || FR: 2 x FR150 || NR: Sulphur Denitrator || CR: RM Custom Made 8" || KR: Deltec KM500 || TopUp: Tunze Osmolator 3155 || || UV: Coralife 12X 36W || Ozonizer: Sanders C200|| Controller: GHL Profilux Plus II Ex || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member arcanehacker Posted February 4, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 4, 2010 i have the same queries as jythong... i have seen black ocellaris (not clark's clownfish) with orange tip on the face, and other black ocellaris with black face (so black cant even see the eyes). u can see the 2 kinds in iwarna now.. they are breeding several pairs of black ocellaris ... most are selling at $40 ~ $50, sometimes $80 per pc if they come from australia. i even saw CF selling a pair for $1k+ (they had orange face) i am wondering if they are several species of the black ocellaris? some with jet black face and others with orange face? or issit just a matter of age / different origin? or they have orange face when younger and will eventually turn jet black as they mature? Its normal for Australian Black Ocellaris to have orange faces when in Juvenile stage.. I had my true mated pair with orange faces too.. they both evolved to fully black really quick in my tank.. I don't know about the tank breed ones.. they may have evolved during the multiple breeding processes.. sorta like the shirtless clowns or Picassos.. Quote Why do we use "My 2 cents worth" when 1 cents are not legal tender in Singapore anymore? Shouldn't it be 5 cents worth? "Its easier to blame the 'mantis' or crabs in the tank for missing & dead livestocks.." http://arcanehacker.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Ketchup Posted February 4, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 4, 2010 Its normal for Australian Black Ocellaris to have orange faces when in Juvenile stage.. I had my true mated pair with orange faces too.. they both evolved to fully black really quick in my tank.. I don't know about the tank breed ones.. they may have evolved during the multiple breeding processes.. sorta like the shirtless clowns or Picassos.. yup, from what i read, it may have orange face in juve stage... thats how my 2 aussie black osci looks like now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jythong Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 OK, that you for all the replies. I guess the cheaper black clownfishes I saw in LFS so frequently are probbaly Clark's, thanks for enlightening me. How about black percs, are they similar to black occellaris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo77 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 black pers...maybe is those grade A percs...where body is black and white bar but fins are all orange....if you want nice percs...coral farm....black ocellaris.....think ML henry has stock, LCK also.....cheapest i find is coral farm but they dont have stock now.... Quote Tank : 4 X 2 X 2 with low iron front panel and external overflow Skimmer : BK SM200 with waste collector Return Pumps : Red Dragon 6m3 and Ehiem 1262 FR : 2 X Deltec 509 & powered by AB2000 Nitrate Filter : Deltec NF 509 and tee off from AB2000 Calcium R'tor : Deltec PF 501 with RM secondary chamber Kalkwasser R'tor : Deltec KM500 Chiller : Pansonic 1 HP Compressor with 20m titanium Coil Wave Makers : 4 X Tunze 6055 with 7096 & Vortec MP40w Controller : GHL Profilux Lighting : ATI Powermodule 10 or 8 tubes Water Top-up : Water Top-Up tank powered by Tunze Osmolator External Monitor : American Pinpoint pH and Temp. Monitor for main tank and GHL Profilux Controller to measure temp, pH, Redox Ozonizer : Sander C50 UV : Corallife 6x Algae Scrubbler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member marinebetta Posted February 4, 2010 SRC Member Share Posted February 4, 2010 If you want the ultimate black and white clownfish, ask CF to bring in McCulloch's They're thinking about it - just need some encouragement Quote Intelligent people talk about ideas...... Average people talk about things...... Small people talk about other people...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuEl Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 It's in the genes. Some pairs of black ocellaris produce juveniles which turn black sooner, even the face for some. Other pairs produce juveniles which are brown with orange faces at the same size. If you are paying so much for the clown, get one with better genes. If the fish look faded in the bag, it is normal as they are stressed. Quote Always something more important than fish. http://reefbuilders.com/2012/03/08/sps-pico-reef/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jythong Posted February 6, 2010 Author Share Posted February 6, 2010 Iwarna now has many black Australian ocellaris sold in pairs, I thought the price is good. They are juveniles with orange faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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