Legent Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Hey guys just wanted to share something... I've done some research and realised that natural ocean temperatures like the Indo Pacific have ocean temperatures of up to 33- 34 degrees. I've been to certain marine lfs where their tanks are outdoors and the softies in it are still alive and kicking. So it got me thinking and i've decided to sell my chiller, off my fan and risk it. And viola! No problem! My soft and lps corals are doing well and I even keep SPS like birdnests, monti caps and a millepora. A few reefers who got something from me saw that I operate without chiller or fan at all. N ive been doing that for 9 months already I have no air con installed and the tank temperature stays within 30-31 degrees on a very warm day and 26-27 on a rainy day. Im guessing its not the temperature that matters (unless its really too hot) but the temperature swing that is of more concern. What are you guys comments? Anyone tried without fan or chiller before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Evolutionz Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 My sps not doing well in 28c. Now running chiller at 26c. Can see its better Quote EvolutionZ's Floating Reef: (Decommed) EvolutionZ's 4ft shallow Mixed Reef Build : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member [V]tEc Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 U serious? My chiller once failed to kick in, temp raise to 33 degree, all my LPS melt, Lineatus and Flame wrasse up lorry, rest of the fishes super stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member brojj Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 How is your SPS colors like, without chiller or fans?<br /><br />Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2<br /><br /><br /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakkite Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 This is something new. I've chiller down once and can see that gonia not opening. However, did notice that all the chalice mouths opened. Good or not, need to do a bit of research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resser Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 When the temperature is higher, metabolism increases, livestocks need more food. That got me thinking, have you noticed, there are more fat people in colder countries than over here where it is hotter? Quote Materialism :- He who dies with the most toys, wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member DottyClown Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 Interesting. Legent, can post some pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member braincoral Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 Maybe TS dont know that many coral reef are in bad stage due to global warming. .increasing temp.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayakkite Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Can I know how big is the tank?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 Hi all, my tank is 40 gallon 2.5 ft. Equipment is just: 1. mazarra razor 160w 10K 2. MP10 wavemaker 3. AC70 HoB filter running carbon n GFO 4. Chaeto in display tank The rest are just livestocks. A little background, this tank was not taken care of for about a month. No calcium and bicarbonate dosing. Family issues and tank neglected. Wanted to decomm but recently cant bear with it and redid the rockscape, moved corals around. Some of the corals are starting to show signs of deterioting. So the white areas are not STN but the side not exposed to lighting at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 More pics. Do give me any comments even criticism as I know im not doing anything conventional. But I have to do disclaimer first what might be ok for me might not be for you! My tank isnt exactly the 'WOW' kind but just to prove that corals can survive higher temperatures. But of course they did that in stages and not immediately. New acro frag to push the limit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share Posted May 10, 2013 The orange birdnest seems to lighten after being in a low Kh tank for quite a while. Will I be able to get it back to its bright orange color like last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member hanafi_weeseng Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 Anyway nice clam u have bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member fatbike Posted May 10, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 10, 2013 Wow, tho I'm not into sps, even w softies only, I must say I'm not as bold to try w/o chiller, i remembered telling coolguy last month dat i wanna try w/o both my skimmer n chiller but end up still using it, lol, but really m amazed, many thx for sharing n do update again bro, really interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sengreef Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 me have atleast 5 times chiller problem in my reefing especially happened during i'm oversea and everytime i lost many corals or almost whole tank crashed ... In my experience , 31C for not more than 24hrs is still ok for any coral just stress the corals will not kill them but for few days onward many will die especially most sensitive is not sps but soft finger and leather coral melt away directly ... but in my case , temperature sudden change from 25C to 31C or above ... If slowly raise the temperature take few weeks possible coral can survive for that temperature ... Legent , your led light and vortech pump will not increase tank temperature but most heat come from return pump too ... make sure your thermometer are accurate enough not giving wrong reading cause wrong info will misleading reefer hor ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Yeah max temp I see is 31 deg but its during noon only. Not 24hrs. I can say a few factors enabled me to go without a chiller and fan: 1.My room has no direct sunlight 2. I have ZERO pumps touching the water. 3. The corals are 'conditioned' to this temp slowly from chiller to fan to nothing. 4. I have too much balls (haha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share Posted May 11, 2013 Yeah max temp I see is 31 deg but its during noon only. Not 24hrs. I can say a few factors enabled me to go without a chiller and fan: 1.My room has no direct sunlight 2. I have ZERO pumps touching the water. 3. The corals are 'conditioned' to this temp slowly from chiller to fan to nothing. 4. I have too much balls (haha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member seanhorsay Posted May 11, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 11, 2013 Interesting bro.. I oso tot its nt possible, but seems ok so far wif u.. kp updating mate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Cedric Posted May 12, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 12, 2013 I'm running my tank bet 27-29 degrees using just fans without chiller too! So I agree it is possible to go without chillers. Sent using Tapatalk 2 Quote Comments are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiraltian Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Interesting... How do u condition new fishes & corals to your tank? Quote Display Tank : 36" x 20" x 20" Herbie overflow box design, Sump : 36" x 21" x 17", Frag Tank : 16” x 20” x 16”, custom built by Tank Culture. Lightings : Ecotech Radion XR15 Pro x 2 for Main Display Tank, Inled R80 x 1 for Frag Tank. Chiller : Dalkin 1hp compressor with build-in drop coil. Skimmer : Skimz Octa SC205i Protein Skimmer. FR : H2Ocean FMR75 Fluidised Media Reactor with Hailea HX-2500 (Feeder Pump) running Rowaphos. CR : Skimz Monzter E Series CM122 Calcium Reactor. BPR: Marine Source Biopellet Reactor with Continuum Reef Biopellet Fuel. Main Return Pump : SICCE Syncra ADV 9.0 & Jebao ACQ-10000 Water Pump. Wavemaker : Jebao MOW-9 x2 for Main Display Tank & Jebao SLW-20M Sine Wave Pump for Frag Tank. Water Top Up: AutoAqua Smart ATO Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 12, 2013 Author Share Posted May 12, 2013 Softies, lps and fishes do well... For SPS, i'll try to get frags from fellow reefers. But again I dont really do new SPS frags except for montis and other easier SPS's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiraltian Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Softies, lps and fishes do well... For SPS, i'll try to get frags from fellow reefers. But again I dont really do new SPS frags except for montis and other easier SPS's I see. Thanks for your prompt reply. Quote Display Tank : 36" x 20" x 20" Herbie overflow box design, Sump : 36" x 21" x 17", Frag Tank : 16” x 20” x 16”, custom built by Tank Culture. Lightings : Ecotech Radion XR15 Pro x 2 for Main Display Tank, Inled R80 x 1 for Frag Tank. Chiller : Dalkin 1hp compressor with build-in drop coil. Skimmer : Skimz Octa SC205i Protein Skimmer. FR : H2Ocean FMR75 Fluidised Media Reactor with Hailea HX-2500 (Feeder Pump) running Rowaphos. CR : Skimz Monzter E Series CM122 Calcium Reactor. BPR: Marine Source Biopellet Reactor with Continuum Reef Biopellet Fuel. Main Return Pump : SICCE Syncra ADV 9.0 & Jebao ACQ-10000 Water Pump. Wavemaker : Jebao MOW-9 x2 for Main Display Tank & Jebao SLW-20M Sine Wave Pump for Frag Tank. Water Top Up: AutoAqua Smart ATO Lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staromsa Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 I only tried running my lps tank in the balcony with direct sunlight. And compressor producing hot air.never use chiller . But guess what? I used metal halide last time. Temperature was hovering at ard 34-35degress. No problem. Infact the corals bloom even more. Just that have to face diatom problems lol. Quote Tank and Equipments Used:- Tank Size: 3x1.5x2 Return Pump: Eheim 1260 Lighting: DE 36 Inch T5 Retrofit 6 x 39 Watts | 5 ATI Blue Plus & 1 ATI Special Blue. Wavemaker: 1x WP-40 | 1x SUNSUN 5000ltr/hr Skimmer: BUBBLE MAGUS C7 Skimz ideas FR: Running ROWAPHOS (FEEDER PUMP: RESUN 1000) Enductor FR: Running NP Biopellet (FEEDER PUMP: AQUABEE 1000) Chaeto in sump ~ Watching my tank matures and progressing day by day , gives me great satisfactory Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRC Member Patrick Posted May 12, 2013 SRC Member Share Posted May 12, 2013 Interesting read. I have often wondered corals in fish farms with no chillers how they managed to thrive... But their water is not warm I think due to high circulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legent Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Wow now someone beat me to it! 34-35 degrees! Crazy temp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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